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What's making you lulz today?
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BBC News really loves the lulzsec logo. They put it on their website at every opportunity when these guys were in the news before, and now are so pleased to be able to do so again that they put that story on the front page despite, arguably, this not really being front page worthy.
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The FBI said he faced a maximum sentence of more than 124 years in prison if found guilty of all counts.
Spanish Inquisition doesn't have shit on our draconian legal system, does it?
Gotta say, as much as these guys are retards and deserve to be facing some of the consequences of their actions, the American criminal court system makes all those Axis-of-evil style tyrannies out there look downright just and merciful in comparison. Even the Soviet Union started you out with a few years in a Siberian gulag to convince you to "behave." But in America, hacking a few computers and vandalizing webpages to make a misguided political point, is as bad as 5 counts of capital murder.
Only in America. Land of the free. Home of the brave. My hairy, brown asshole.
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I haven't been able to confirm it to my satisfaction, but some sources seem to indicate you guys have an incarceration rate at least comparable to the era of Berija's gardens. So, there's that.
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Originally Posted by
CitizenCain
The FBI said he faced a maximum sentence of more than 124 years in prison if found guilty of all counts.
Spanish Inquisition doesn't have shit on our draconian legal system, does it?
Gotta say, as much as these guys are retards and deserve to be facing some of the consequences of their actions, the American criminal court system makes all those Axis-of-evil style tyrannies out there look downright just and merciful in comparison. Even the Soviet Union started you out with a few years in a Siberian gulag to convince you to "behave." But in America, hacking a few computers and vandalizing webpages to make a misguided political point, is as bad as 5 counts of capital murder.
Only in America. Land of the free. Home of the brave. My hairy, brown asshole.
No one ever gets the maximum sentences. They're there to coerce people to enter a plea bargain. I doubt he gets 10 years.
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Originally Posted by
CitizenCain
The FBI said he faced a maximum sentence of more than 124 years in prison if found guilty of all counts.
Spanish Inquisition doesn't have shit on our draconian legal system, does it?
Gotta say, as much as these guys are retards and deserve to be facing some of the consequences of their actions, the American criminal court system makes all those Axis-of-evil style tyrannies out there look downright just and merciful in comparison. Even the Soviet Union started you out with a few years in a Siberian gulag to convince you to "behave." But in America, hacking a few computers and vandalizing webpages to make a misguided political point, is as bad as 5 counts of capital murder.
Only in America. Land of the free. Home of the brave. My hairy, brown asshole.
Cyber crime costs billions in lost productivity. Deterrence is an important element of our judicial system.
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Originally Posted by
Loki
No one ever gets the maximum sentences.
People who lose at trial do. Which probably explains why 99+% of people charged with federal felonies take a plea at some point in the proceedings.
Say, isn't that the same percentage of people who voted for Sadam Hussein under the "vote for me or starve to death" platform he ran just before his fall from power? How completely coincidental.
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Originally Posted by
Loki
They're there to coerce people to enter a plea bargain.
Yeah, to deliberately warp the justice system as far from justice as we can possibly get away with, and before the case ever even sees the inside of a courtroom.
Not making me feel any better about our legal system, you know. :p
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Originally Posted by
Lewkowski
Cyber crime costs billions in lost productivity. Deterrence is an important element of our judicial system.
And it's clearly working great. Threatening some dumb kid suffering from illusions of invulnerability (as do most teenagers) with 124 years in jail clearly deterred him from ever defacing Sony's website in the first place, which is why this story we're talking about doesn't existohwait. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by
CitizenCain
And it's clearly working great. Threatening some dumb kid suffering from illusions of invulnerability (as do most teenagers) with 124 years in jail clearly deterred him from ever defacing Sony's website in the first place, which is why this story we're talking about doesn't existohwait. :rolleyes:
When was the last "hacktivist" sentenced to 124 years in jail? And again he probably won't get that much of a sentence but it would send a powerful message.
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Originally Posted by
Lewkowski
When was the last "hacktivist" sentenced to 124 years in jail? And again he probably won't get that much of a sentence but it would send a powerful message.
Is this the same powerful messaging as "shoot on sight" or "fry 'em" with the death penalty?
Lewk, your ideas about crime and punishment are most bewildering.
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Lewk, he's now an informant, so he ain't gonna get anything.
The beauty of this is that as an informant he is now working for 'The Man' and now is turning on those that he happily chummed with online.
Not such a big tough guy now, is he?
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trolls know no sides :haha:
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Originally Posted by
Lewkowski
Cyber crime costs billions in lost productivity. Deterrence is an important element of our judicial system.
Both statements are true, but these are not the cybercriminals that are costing you billions in lost productivity. Bear in mind that I hold no great love for these people either