Aka. the Muslim Brotherhood aka. young liberal arts students aka. Trollface.
Consider the damning evidence:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/2...rance-day.html
How else would an American president get the idea to not mention Jewish people in a speech about the fucking Holocaust?
Has it happened before? By which I mean, "Has the Labour Party infiltrated any previous presidential adminstrations?"
Is this insignificant or portentous?
Also, #alllivesmatter
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Good comment Aimless they are both bloody insane at the moment. Hopefully the mother of the madness will never get near power.
You realize of course that the administration is pandering to the alt-right which has probably made a nice cushy home for itself in the Whitest House.
Alt-right is a bullshit term and I have always said there is nothing right-wing about the far right. You can't put a fag paper between the far right and far left a lot of the time.
I'm actually going to go ahead and agree with the Trump administration on this one. But then I think the entire idea of these "remembrance days" is mostly a crock. Even if it weren't, though, the US is not actually a Jordanian middle school. We're well aware that the Holocaust targeted Jews. People aren't so well aware of the other targeted groups. As someone who fits one of those groups, I think the need to make that SPECIAL mention (and continue to ignore the rest of us) is what's out of line.
That's a very optimistic and trusting take on why Trump said what he did.
Believe it or not, I think what is actually said/done matters more than intent, particularly when intent is COMPLETELY UNKNOWABLE. I'm supposed to say Trump is wrong for doing the right thing because it's possible he or his advisors had less savory motives? That would kind of require saying that every politician is wrong in everything they do, every time, wouldn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
It's a signal to his white supremacist base (have a look at the white supremacist forums). And I can assure you that this base won't listen to the message and realize how unfortunate it was that homosexuals or anyone else were killed during the Holocaust. What it will tell them is that the president is with them and therefore that racist behavior is now acceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy
Lewki, it's a formal statement recognizing the Holocaust. IThe white supremacist base had already tuned out and was busy creating their own narrative before the first word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1...e-by-neo-NazisQuote:
Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy
Hey look, whadayaknow, I was exactly right. They tuned out and created their own narrative. Quelle surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
I'm kinda with LF on this.
Is this a departure from the norm, for an American president?
It is, dare I say, unpresidented. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
I expect so. But since "International Holocaust Remembrance Day" only started in 2006, I think the sample size for establishing the "norm" may be a bit small.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15R0OL
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Stay tuned for chortling RBkowski :o
Never understood why the Germans didn't just change the anthem rather than drop a stanza? Especially when the offending one was the first stanza. These sort of mistakes happen surprisingly often.
Though to me the German national anthem makes me think of something completely different. From watching Formula 1 when Ferrari/Schumacher won growing up, my dad would occasionally sing this to the tune of the German National Anthem:
Coughs and sneezes
spread diseases
trap them in your handkerchief
Yes, Rand, God Shave The Queen.
Why not :)
As a republican atheist I'm not particularly enamored with our anthem either. I prefer Land of Hope and Glory followed by Jerusalem - though they still have religious implications.
Ours is pretty weird, talking about our founding father's German blood and being faithful to the Spanish crown :p
I remember this happening with the German anthem at least once in the past couple of years so it's not that rare.
Exactly. If you can't laugh about it when it happens maybe consider changing the thing.
While amusing it is a serious mistake for a national sports body to fail like this, it's not like it's organised by some local amateurs.
The number of times I've seen boy scout groups get vehemently bent out of shape because a visiting troop did the morning flags and couldn't tell which side was which when raising the state flag.
At least Nebraska is trying to redesign theirs after they caught themselves flying their own flag upside down for ~10 days.
It is regrettable, certainly cause for much apology, so sorry, etc. But they kept their anthem as the same song but simply being selective and singing one verse from a song that's only three verses to begin with? Yeah, this is a mistake that's going to happen. Repeatedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flixy
Incompetent, ignorant or an unsportsmanlike attempt to psych out opponents through trolling. Either way, just another day in the new great US of A :downcast:
Precisely [EDIT - to Fuzzy not Aimless]
Kinda crybabyish honestly. It doesn't appear to have been done deliberately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless