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Americans out.
Ghana deserves to continue in the tournament - now the only African nation remaining.
Well done by the Amerikans though.:up:
Yeah, lots of missed chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
20 minutes till kick off!
I am SO FUCKING EXCITED
I guess it's now 10 minutes past kickoff.
I have to assume you ejaculated prematurely, though. You were way too excited to make it last. :(
That's a rough start. :noob:
Oh for fuck's sake... but good game so far
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3940/over.png
Useless USELESS CUNT of a referee
45 minutes and everything to play for though
useless FIFA more like, it's not always possible for a referee to be able to see everything >_<
So, we're out of the running, American lives can now return to normal.
wait...
brits you guys should always play like this :heart:
Ugh. I can't bear to watch anymore :(
Christ on a stick that was bad. Who knows what would have happened if the score had been 2-2. The English wouldn't have to all-out attack and be open to those counter.
Video refs goddamnit :mad:
Exactly. But what can you say? It always goes against us. We had the Same in Euro 2004, some European ref dicked us the whole game, and rightly so, felt the abuse of our media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust
Feel like crap now
Condolences England.
Bad luck on the missed goal, that would have changed the whole second half.
You still had a lot of good looks at it, just couldn't get the bounces, and Germany couldn't miss...just one of those days.
Thats a poor image, such compression makes it hard to see where the goal line truely is.Quote:
Originally Posted by DecoyMilk
Try this one:
Spoiler:
They were still beaten 4-1. You can't pin a defeat of that magnitude on one disallowed goal. I know there's a difference between 2-1 and 2-2, psychologically, but if they go to pieces every time things don't go their way, then they're hardly going to beat a team like, for example, Argentina.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust
When will FIFA finally realize that their fear of replays are unfounded? Oh, you're worried that it will waste time? Not as much time as the little girls crying every time they fall over.
Also, go Argentina!
From two years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aBi...layer_embedded
hmm
Anyway, I predict the daring solution to the latest international tournament debacle will be as follows:
1) Fire the manager.
2) Change nothing else.
3) Hope it all somehow comes together next time.
I don't really understand why so many English were convinced they had the better team to start with. But to be honest, I didn't expect a defeat this crushing.
All teams have had to deal with bad referee decissions the last few days, only the UK fell apart under such a decision? Tells me that they weren't really all that wonderful anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust
TBH, I think it's probably a good thing that the defeat was that crushing. What if the defeat had only been 2-1 or even just 3-1, then the story of the world cup would have been the disallowed goal, not the dismal way England played in this match and all the others with the possible exception of the stunning 1 goal (count 'em!) victory over footballing giants Slovenia. At least this result means it can no longer be denied that there are fundamental, systematic problems with the the English team and probably the entire national game. Germany obviously took a good, hard look at themselves and their game after the remarkably similar 5-1 whopping we gave them a few years ago, and the results speak for themselves. England now have an opportunity to do something similar. Whether they take it or continue to blame a few easy scapegoats (the manager, the referee, a few specific players who made mistakes) remains to be seen.
I agree entirely. That decision was incredible, but it wasn't why the match was lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
Wow, Germany - Argentina next week :)
I also agree steely. We scored three goals this tournament. And our group was amongst the easiest.
I can only hope that, against all previous trends, the manager is kept and the players are sacked. The "golden generation will likely be too old for the next world cup, and a couple might not even make the euros. Maybe do what the germans did and play a bunch of youngsters plus ashley cole and gerrard if they are still up for it.
Of course, our golden boy rooney was shit as well.
... bringing on emile heskey... ... ...
Let me just go back to what I said about sports psychology after the USA game. In the USA game, England started well but went to pieces after Green's mistake. Then what do we have in the Germany game? England are staging a convincing fight back against Germany, they get a goal disallowed and... what happens? They go to pieces, again. It's almost as if the players don't know how to deal with it when something goes wrong!
Sporting facts:
1) Nerves are an inevitable part of competing in any major sporting event, for a given value of 'major' compared to the level of the competitor is operating act (i.e. the world cup for Wayne Rooney, the local league for Dave Pub Footballer)
2) Nerves, when handled badly, can lead to a noticeable decrease in performance. I've seen an athlete who was usually able to compete, let's say somewhere between regional and national level get beaten in an event little better than a school sports day because of the constant train of negative thoughts before a race.
3) Some athletes are readily able to deal with nerves and even use them to get a better performance than they would otherwise. Others cannot handle them at all and consistently fail to perform any time the pressure is on.
4) The ability to handle nerves can be taught.
So, put that together with the noted tendency of England to play worse when things are going badly, and then no on connects connects the dots and says "we need to get someone to teach these players to put, e.g. disallowed goals or mistakes by the goalie, behind them and not give up" because... they're idiots, I suppose.
There were two very bad decitions by refs yesterday. But in the end the two stronger treams went to to next stage.
Still the FIFA should allow video refs for goals.
3-1 and 4-1 were both scored out of a counter because England was all-out attacking to score the equalizer. The first during a free kick which saw 9 player in front of the opposition's goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
Look, it's clear the better side won, the terrible defending on England's side lost them the game in the first 32 minutes. If the score had been 2-2 Germany probably would have won it still. Probably.
Hmm. Well it was a good game to watch. Attacking and conter-attacking, ball being passed around a lot. The Germans were a little more precise. In the end the result was predictable really.
I didn't watch the last half-hour though, so left the game at 3-1 down. It was too nice a day outside by the river under big sycamore trees sipping Pimms to watch England lose yet again. :)
The "world's" reaction to Donovan goal :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEjrzgr-zCc
Well, today Holland - Slovakia. I suppose the Dutch side would have a lot to explain if they can't win this match. Nothing is certain of course, but Slovakia shouldn't be a real obstacle to entry into the next round.
Another world cup ended in disappointment, congrats to the German team they showed counter attacking football at it's very best. However the one thing that bugs me more than anything is knowing that the German defense/keeper were nothing brilliant and looked fragile at times (especially during the latter stages of the first half) yet they (England) done nothing to seize the opportunity. Any GOOD footballing side would have exploited that.
I'm really pissed off that England didn't do very well. I mean we won the World Cup in 1966 FFS :( .....
He shoots, he scores. That's one for Robben. :up:
It's 1-0 but I really expected more than what I've seen so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timbuk2
Holland seems to be through. I noticed something funny; the signal of my TV appears to be about 1-2 seconds slower than the TV-signal of the people in the square. The goal was sort of 'announced' by the cheers there as it happened on my TV.
Back from a wedding weekend.
US never quite pulled it together, Ghana played with more energy and were more physical than the US.
Hate to say "I told you so" about Germany, Brits....
From here on out, I'll just be glad if Argentina loses. God, I hate Maradona. Never liked Argentina much, but that little bantam makes me throw up in my mouth a bit.
Cheering for Brazil and Dutch, in that order.
Most likely Holland will play Brazil next week. I see no reason why Brazil should necessarily win that match.
Seems like a done deal; friday Brazil will meet Holland in the quarter finals.