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Cummings releases WhatsApp messages, purportedly from conversations he's had with Johnson:
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If these are genuine, they show that Johnson himself quite appropriately thought of his totally fucking hopeless health secretary as being totally fucking hopeless. Sadly, this also paints a horrifying picture of how the nation was run not long ago—by a bunch of utter dingdongs on WhatsApp.
Did not have "Dominic Cummings is more effective at holding government to account than both official opposition and media" on my 2021 bingo card.
Scorpion/frog is timeless & universalQuote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
Have I Got News For You's Right Honourable Tub of Lard MP would hold the government to account better than Sir Keir Starmer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
It's impossible to beat the Tories right now, the vaccine roll out was just too good.
*lib dems smash tories in previously safe tory seat*
Ah, well, nevertheless
I was torn yesterday.
I felt the Tories deserved to lose the seat, due to Boris's abject cowardice and failure to lift lockdown.
If the Liberal Democrats had actually stood for liberalism and ending the now-unjustifiable restrictions on our civil liberties I would want them to win.
But their entire campaign was predicated upon NIMBYism. Opposition to HS2 (despite the LDs as a party supporting it), opposition to new housing developments (despite the LDs as a party simultaneously calling for more immigration).
NIMBYism doesn't deserve to win, but neither did the Tories. Happy the Tories lost, shame the NIMBYs won.
Unless Dido Harding intends to use the infinity stones to exterminate the top half of the population pyramid, this isn't happening. It should be immediately disqualifying for a candidate to be this unrealistic.
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14% ?
I'm surprised its that low, thought it was considerably higher.
Unsurprisingly turns out to be more to the story than meets the headline.
For many years now the UK has deliberately trained fewer doctors and nurses than the NHS requires, by restricting university courses. Because of COVID and the exam/university entrance issues last year many university courses increased their size by 25% or more. Which means in a few years time a larger cohort of UK doctors and nurses.
The amount of places in these courses is meant to be going back down to the restricted levels, however universities and others are already begging the government to keep the increased size of the courses. Which would mean a permanent increase in domestic training of doctors and nurses.
Dido Harding it seems isn't calling for foreign-born workers to be removed from the NHS (unsurprisingly) but is calling for the NHS and University feeding system to increase the domestic training of new doctors and nurses and not to deliberately rely upon a brain drain from elsewhere.
To me deliberately relying upon a brain drain from elsewhere may be cost-efficient but its rather unethical. Having greater training etc seems to me to be a good thing to do - do you disagree Aimless? I doubt you actually do, so will presume from silence that you agree with that actually.
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Thought this was a piss-take but it's real:
https://www.onebritainonenation.com/...-2021-campaign
The comments on the song are the best part, really
It's completely naff but it's an anti racism song, from a British Indian who has spent years on community relations and founded this many years ago. You have an issue with that?
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Curious which principle you object to?
Tolerance?
Kindness?
Pride?
Respect?
Tolerance? Kindness? Respect? It might have more meaning if our PM had ever presented any of those values during his life. It's a silly attempt to bate opponents and then shout "traitor". It's meaningless and hypocritical.
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Originally Posted by RandBlade
edit: ow god, Lyrics
It's called One Britain One Nation Day. But they made it Britain Uber Alles.
oooone briiitain greeeeat naaation :cry: :cry: :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust
Fascists just don't know how to write good songs
Its a song about opposing racism not supporting fascism. :rolleyes:
Its absolutely naff, but its about uniting people from different races.
Rather sad that some people are so allergic to the notion of Britain, they can't see past that.
Its not a government thing, it wasn't set up by anyone in government, it was set up by an immigrant who wanted to unite people of all races and has been building this up for eight years now. Its hardly a US-style Pledge of Allegiance.
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co....l-pride-event/
"Strong Britain, great nation" clearly is a reference to opposing racism and uniting people from different races.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
I see that now. " One Britain One Nation " wouldn't fit that bill.
edit: Wait, your Department for Education consists of one immigrant?
There's so much about Britain I don't know.
No the Department of Education doesn't consist of one immigrant. However they didn't create this either.
Kash Singh is one immigrant and this campaign is his. He created it, he's been building it for eight years and the Department of Education just recognised what he has been doing.
But keep sneering at immigrants trying to tackle racism and division and build something positive instead, if that makes you feel big and clever.
My god that is pathetic :haha: "keep sneering at immigrants trying to tackle racism and division"Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
Ok, here's my challenge to you. It's a simple challenge: Quote me.
That's it, quote me sneering at immigrants. If you do, I'll tip my hat to you.
What makes me feel big and clever is replying to such a moronic post.
So, let's watch this. A campaign One Britain One nation has an anthem. The video about this one nation starts with mentioning there isn't actually one nation but 4 separate nations. That's less than a second in. The tune starts, and it brings me right back to the seventies of the previous century; when children's shows were low budget and you could see and hear it. Cute how they sing about their great wars and show pictures of the people who they fought against through the ages, I'm kind of expecting a nazi-flag in this sequence. Someone else probably has noted that Scots are a bit ambguous about the whole united forever part of 'united forever'. Oh and from there on it's rinse and repeat.
Britons you can rest assured; this anthem will unite you. I'm not quite clear on what it will unite you in.
OK here you go, sneering at Mr Singh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust
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Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust
It is low budget, its a grassroots campaign to unite people of all races together to feel pride and togetherness in their country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
It will probably unite people into thinking its a bit naff then moving on for most people. For those who have an allergic reaction to the Union Jack though it seems to be getting a different reaction. Amusing that you think that singing about "so many races" coming together makes you think "Nazis". Because when I think of races being united and treated with respect, I don't think Nazis - but to listen to people like you treating others with respect is basically singing Your Future Belongs To Me.
That's not sneering at Singh you imbecile. You can blame me for sneering Randblade trying to deflect criticism towards the Department for Education as 'sneering at immigrants trying to tackle racism and division and build something positive instead'Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
But, ok, if that's how you want to play it, I am allowed that as well. I'm not bigger or more clever than you. Apparently the content doesn't matter, the prefix determines the post.
So here's you advocating deporting all immigrants
I feel it's kind of hypocritical for you to be up in arms about a little sneering while advocating to deport all immigrants.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
Especially when some of them are trying to tackle racism and division and build something positive
Except the Department for Education isn't behind this, Kash Singh is. The DfE just linked to his project that he has been running for eight years.
So yes your supposed sneering at the DfE and conceited remarks about how the "Department for Education consists of one immigrat" is actually sneering at Kash Singh.
Listen, you do not get to decide at who my sneering is directed. That's my jurisdiction.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
But you got what you wanted, misdirection by crying: you hate immigrants trying to tackle racism and division and build something positive! :cry:
Boris taught you well. Altogether now!
"Stroooooooong Britain, great nation
Strong Boris, great Furher
Strong Brexit, great future
Strong strawman, great distraction"
Boris had nothing to do with this song. Its by Kash Singh, not Boris Johnson, not the Department for Education.
But I guess your literacy isn't very good if you can't tell the difference.
For the final time, I think its naff.
I brought Boris in because of your misdirection, not because of the song.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
But I guess your literacy isn't very good if you can't tell the difference.
In the course of pursuing an affair with his married aide, Hancock may have broken lockdown rules:
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Questions about conflict of interest wrt her hiring remain unanswered, but, even aside from that, he should resign—just as Ferguson did (tbf he should've already been sacked for his devastating incompetence). Ministers must be held to a higher standard than random advisors.
This story; the affair, the rule breaking, the hypocrisy, the zero consequences; nothing better represents current British values.
We ask children to sing about "British values", then a few days later, this.
Everyone who voted for an enabled these awful people should be ashamed of themselves. The country is an immoral, embarrassing joke.
I kinda feel for the hopeless men who've foolishly staked their own dignity on these corrupt and faithless chancers. Still holding out for a resignation or a dismissal—preferably after his defenders have finished explaining why there's no reason for him to resign or to be fired :oQuote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop
There's been a lot of commentary about how cringe the video is—typically by people who are unaware that that's how they also look when hugging and smooching their boo—but very little on the security aspect. If that video was leaked without official authorization, that's a major security issue. I imagine any number of MPs are, er, concerned. Er, about the security issue.
In other news, NAO critical of NHS T&T blunders:
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b0c101fc857eeb
(this article appears to be a bit sloppy though)
More interested in the contracts he's been handing out to his mates on the DL than his affair, but I assume that's not going to get major play because Tories (of all party affiliations) will just look at that and go 'hmm, yes, this is appropriate behavior for a minister' while nodding sagely.
The affair, ofc, also involves paying his mates from the public purse :o after all, he did hire his college friend and lover for a £15k/2wk/y job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
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Govt turning a blind eye to security issues and possibly also crimes.
Hancock has resigned.
Johnson has his scapegoat.
Stay tuned for many more stories of corruption, betrayal, and failure :up: anyway, good for Hancock... this will let the uselessQuote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop
turdsdudes who've gone all in on defending him save what little dignity they have left.
F
Rumors on the Twittershere that it was Carrie's ex, who now works at the Sun, that leaked the video so that Carrie could get Sajid Javid back into the cabinet.
And hapless Johnson, with his full support behind Hancock, stuck in the middle.
Clown circus.
Good riddance to Hancock.
Trying to tell everyone that they can't live their own lives, months after deaths stopped - only to be breaking the rules himself. It was ridiculous.
This is good for Johnson, because it gives him a face saving way to have Hancock leave which isn't an implicit admission of the truth of the allegations Cummings has been making.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop
I wonder if Cummings will continue dropping screen dumps of WhatsApp messages etc and attacking Johnson's government, or if the purpose of this entire circus was really just to get Matt Hancock fired. If so, I have to grudgingly admire how petty that is.
Cummings is furious he's been replaced by Javid.
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As I've said here many times before, I have a lot of respect for Javid and I'm glad he's back in the Cabinet.
Its important and right that Hancock has gone and the fact he was breaching rules he should never have been enforcing upon the rest of us while doing so is atrocious - but the bigger issue is how the images leaked. CCTV footage of ministers isn't something that should be leaking and is a security concern.
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I don't know what's more comical—how corrupt Hancock is, or how thoroughly Gove's dreams keep getting dashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-contract.html
It's weird how someone so corrupt and incompetent inspired so many useless dudes to come to his defense at every opportunity. But I guess even losers figure out when to cut their losses—eventually.