Movies that do not attach to scientific laws

Historical Fiction movies are almost always horrible at history. Its happens 9 times out of 10, but my recent example would be A Knights Tale. All the armor they used, it spanned a time frame of hundreds of years.

A Knight's Tale was shit anyway.

Fifth Element (one of my favorites)

LOTR - Return of the King (my very favorite, when's the blueray version coming out?, "Fool, no man can kill me.", "I am no man !") Oooooh, lots of camel squashing in this one.

Total Recall

Red Planet

Crap, the list could go on forever.

You liked Red Planet? Ick.

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Originally Posted by EyeKhan

You liked Red Planet? Ick.

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I thought we were rating on anti-physics.

Its funny. I thought i was a bad person to go to a movie with. But now, seeing what you guys are like, i feel much better about myself.

Thanks all. :up:

Ignoring physics in movies is only bad if its done badly enough that you cringe.

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Originally Posted by Being

I thought we were rating on anti-physics.

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Oh. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

Its funny. I thought i was a bad person to go to a movie with. But now, seeing what you guys are like, i feel much better about myself.

Thanks all. :up:

Ignoring physics in movies is only bad if its done badly enough that you cringe.

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I agree. I go to movies for entertainment and as long as the corners cut won't prevent me from suspending my disbelief, I don't care. I would have liked Phantom Menace if it wasn't such a boring piece of shit. I so wanted Star Wars to take the next step. Alas Lucas was too confident in himself. Fool.

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Originally Posted by Being

I thought we were rating on anti-physics.

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I just saw a snippet of some disaster movie where they were planning on closing a fault line using nuclear bombs. I love the magical properties the word "nuclear" has.

Oh.

Something else just occurred to me after reading about your fault line disaster movie.

In Superman II, or is it III, Lois Lane is in a car which is crushed during some earthquake or summink caused be Lex Luthor. She dies. In a fit of emotion on discovering her dead body, Superman flies faster and faster and faster round the earth, until time starts going backwards, back to point before Lois gets crushed so that Superman can save her.

By current understanding, travelling backward in time is an impossibility ness pah. Time can only be slowed down as the speed of light is approached. And the speed of light is the universe's speed limit.

But I guess any limits imposed on us by our physical universe are mere hurdles to overcome for our Superhero. Cos he's Super. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Timbuk2

Oh.

By current understanding, travelling backward in time is an impossibility ness pah. Time can only be slowed down as the speed of light is approached. And the speed of light is the universe's speed limit.

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Since the speed of light is measured with time what affect does slowing down time have on the speed of light? :eek:

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Originally Posted by Being

Since the speed of light is measured with time

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Speed is measured in seconds, minutes and hours? :think:

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what affect does slowing down time have on the speed of light? :eek:

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Effect. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Einstein

time slows down for an object traveling near the speed of light in relation to a stationary observer

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Originally Posted by Timbuk2

Speed is measured in seconds, minutes and hours? :think:


Effect. :mad:

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How is the speed of light affected by slowing down time? (Better? :D)

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Originally Posted by Timbuk2

:headbang:

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Originally Posted by Einstein
time slows down for an object traveling near the speed of light in relation to a stationary observer

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There are no stationary observers.

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Originally Posted by Timbuk2

Yars, but all that link shows is ingenious ways of incorporating a membrane oxygenator within the body. A small artificial lung that works using an oxygenated liquid in other words.

There is nothing there that implies that alveoli can or ever will be able to directly absorb oxygen from liquid (and dispense with CO2 which is equally important for aerobic respiration). Alveoli are simply not capable, they haven't evolved that way.

In other words doing nothing other than pouring oxygenated liquid directly into a lung (as shown in the movie) can not and never will be a functioning oxygen/carbon-dioxide exchange system. The subject in question would drown.


EDIT: Hang about. A special suit is used in the movie isn't it? I guess a membrane oxygenator could be incorporated into the suit ... but then blood would need to pass intravenously from the suit into the body, so certainly not as described in the movie where the implication given is that the lung itself 'breathes' the liquid. Hm.

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18 hours is not that short :) And that was the 60s.

http://www.indopedia.org/Fluid_breathing.html

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Originally Posted by Being

There are no stationary observers.

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Due to the principle of relativity, every observer may be described as being stationary (and that's why time dilatation comes into play).

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There are no stationary observers.

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Eh?

Lois Lane is the stationary observer. Or earth. Or everyone on earth. However you want to look at.

Stationary relative to Superman and his Super-light speed.

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Originally Posted by Timbuk2

Yars, but all that link shows is ingenious ways of incorporating a membrane oxygenator within the body. A small artificial lung that works using an oxygenated liquid in other words.

There is nothing there that implies that alveoli can or ever will be able to directly absorb oxygen from liquid (and dispense with CO2 which is equally important for aerobic respiration). Alveoli are simply not capable, they haven't evolved that way.

In other words doing nothing other than pouring oxygenated liquid directly into a lung (as shown in the movie) can not and never will be a functioning oxygen/carbon-dioxide exchange system. The subject in question would drown.


EDIT: Hang about. A special suit is used in the movie isn't it? I guess a membrane oxygenator could be incorporated into the suit ... but then blood would need to pass intravenously from the suit into the body, so certainly not as described in the movie where the implication given is that the lung itself 'breathes' the liquid. Hm.

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Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro

18 hours is not that short :) And that was the 60s.

http://www.indopedia.org/Fluid_breathing.html.

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Wow. Well I was 100% wrong in that case. Alveoli can exchange oxygen & CO2 with an oxygenated liquid. :)

I'll find an easier target to pick on than The Abyss then. :sour:

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Originally Posted by Timbuk2

Oh.

Something else just occurred to me after reading about your fault line disaster movie.

In Superman II, or is it III, Lois Lane is in a car which is crushed during some earthquake or summink caused be Lex Luthor. She dies. In a fit of emotion on discovering her dead body, Superman flies faster and faster and faster round the earth, until time starts going backwards, back to point before Lois gets crushed so that Superman can save her.

By current understanding, travelling backward in time is an impossibility ness pah. Time can only be slowed down as the speed of light is approached. And the speed of light is the universe's speed limit.

But I guess any limits imposed on us by our physical universe are mere hurdles to overcome for our Superhero. Cos he's Super. :rolleyes:

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That was Superman. The first movie everyone loved. :down: