Is it unreasonable to declare conclusions when you have absolutely nothing to support them?
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The article didn't referenced proposed legislation to make piracy illegal, not the court case verifying that it isn't illegal if there's no profit involved. That still leaves a gaping legal chasm of piracy being legal. The judge just interpreted the law.
To address both of these at once, I agree people are plenty willing to pay for legitimate downloads and reliable service. I pay for all of my music and movies from LaLa (<3 89 cent MP3s) and Amazon (MP3s and movies), and watch Hulu.
But the Spanish situation shows an extreme situation that can develop when piracy isn't even illegal. A country where you can download any copyright content with complete legal impunity will naturally make that country a piss-poor place for any kind of intellectual property to develop.
This doesn't concern you beyond just talking about pirating entertainment?
I think it means the market will have to change. Not that intellectual property won't develop. Products and business plans need to develop that go beyond piracy.
The last Blu-Ray movie I purchased, I purchased at full price, on its 1st day of release. The Watchmen. Not really a movie worth paying full price for, much less Blu-Ray full price; especially since there were more releases in the pipe-line that would include more features. I bought it because it offered me a once in a lifetime opportunity to watch the movie with live director commentary and viewer questions. Easily the best DVD experience I've ever had (don't think I would have learned about the Comedian's giant dildo without it).
So a legit DVD isn't keeping the country's interest. Question should be "What will keep their interest", not "who can we sue"
Yeah, but that's sort of like saying, "Your store didn't have metal gates, so you should develop better technology to prevent me from prying open the lock at night and taking your wares."
Of course the technology can/should/will change, no one is denying that. But I think that's a rather shallow excuse. You can legally download or stream stuff digitally now, yet it seems you still pirate movies. I just don't understand how you can justify it. It seems you just don't like spending the money.
PS- Comedian had a dildo? :confused:
I didn't mention DRM at all. Theft is still theft, but these companies were to slow to act, its socially acceptable, thats not something they can just sue to fix.
Are we sure Spain has the same distribution rights as other countries? I know thats a huge program with digital games, our old Atari wouldn't sell anything digitally outside of the US, and I know Steam charges $90 for a game in Australia when they charge $60 in the US.Quote:
Of course the technology can/should/will change, no one is denying that. But I think that's a rather shallow excuse. You can legally download or stream stuff digitally now, yet it seems you still pirate movies. I just don't understand how you can justify it. It seems you just don't like spending the money.
Or do you mean me personally?
One of the first scenes of his apartment, its beside the TV I think. Its freaking huge, like the size of a midget.Quote:
PS- Comedian had a dildo? :confused:
There isn't much effort involved though. Or time really (well for a computer yes, but not the person involved). I mean, you can spend a few minutes to just setup a computer to automatically scrape a torrent aggregation site for stuff to download, then download it.
Some people do it because they like hoarding data, or because they can. They have no intention of ever watching everything they download.
WTF? Reading this thread is a big huge WTF are you people doing? What do you do with your spare time? Seriously. I can't figure out if you're talking about video piracy, or SPANISH video piracy, or video business in general.
Then there's the system bragging. GBs and machine capability. Stuff you "have" but have not used yet.
Is this a disguised Great Big Penis Competition?
shh, maybe he has a tiny penis and doesn't like to talk about it!
You personally.
:bulb: I've seen the movie maybe three times and never noticed that. I just tried to find a screengrab and was disappointed to just find a lot of pictures of the comedian...next to images of dildos.Quote:
One of the first scenes of his apartment, its beside the TV I think. Its freaking huge, like the size of a midget.
Anyone ever tell you that you are a fucking idiot?
You too.
I might be more open minded about the usefulness of p2p programs, but I've never even suggested that I steal most or even a fraction of my content. This is something you two morons created on your own, simply from my position. I do in fact support the industries you dicks claim I'm stealing from. I have two games installed I did not pay for (American McGees Alice in Wonderland & Rapeplay, neither of which are still being published), 0 songs and 0 movies on my computer that I do not own.
My first comment was about hoarding data, how I install stuff but never remove it, and how I have a 1TB drive thats used solely to store all the promotional stuff that companies put out surrounding their games (wallpapers, videos, patches, demos).
I'll try to get a shot of the dildo tomorrow morning.
PROTIP: Each word is a different link.
Yeah, but is this little penis stuff or what?
GGT, Consider how frequently he uses the word "dick", I think I'm starting to agree with you.
Congratulations, you've now used the word just as often as I have.:tiphat:
Pirating is code for tiny penis syndrome. I don't even know who started this thread and I don't care. It's the geek equivalent of boys on the wrestling mat, or grown men in world wrestling, pitching their balls around. It's stupid stuff. Just like that idiot whatshisname with a bandana and fake tan, getting his own show. Buncha punks posing as pirates with eye patches, drinking grog and saying Aye, matey!
I'll admit that my own track record for movies and games is pretty crap. I only own ~70 DVDs but have downloaded a lot more, though I do visit the cinema regularly. Then again, I honestly wouldn't know where to download movies legally (but i never bothered looking for it either). And I download series that are not on tv here, or that are on at impossible hours here. I hardly ever play games and get bored really quickly so I don't think they are worth my money.
I download most (3/4) of my music illegally, but this does help me discover bands that I later see live. I spend about hundreds of euros every year on tickets, CDs, vinyl, shirts, sweaters, etc., and I'd probably spend less if I didn't download music (how would I know a band is worth visiting?)
There is seriously something wrong with you.
Your taste in games looks pretty repulsive.Quote:
I have two games installed I did not pay for (American McGees Alice in Wonderland & Rapeplay, neither of which are still being published), 0 songs and 0 movies on my computer that I do not own.
Agreed. GGT has gone off into penis crazy land.Quote:
There is seriously something wrong with you.
Awesome way to take screen caps there, buddy
And I think it's supposed to be a sculpture, not a dildo, albeit of a penis
One could try and use it as a dildo, but by that definition most household objects are dildos
I don't have Blu-Ray on the computer, and I don't mess with the PS3 to figure out if its got a snapshot option, and I'd be surprised if it did.
Snyder pointed it out, called it a dildo, said he put it in there cause he figured the Comedian would be into freaky shit.
Fair enough.
Thank you for that. Wow. :bored:
What was the explanation for it?
Really, WTF is going on here?
I clicked looking for some debate about piracy, and instead get GGT ranting about penises.
I've seen some thread drift, but this takes the cake.