stuxnet vs Iran

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Originally Posted by agamemnus

... incredibly perfectly timed, though, even if it wasn't "leaked" but instead "fed"...

:gaga:

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Wouldn't you say the same about the timing anytime in the next 5 months, or the last 5?

I don't think I would. Wasn't this news out just on June 1st?

and the significance of june 1 is...?

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Originally Posted by wiggin

Dread - I heard an interview about this from one of the authors of the drone article in the NYTimes. Apparently this is a big series looking at the Obama administration on a wide variety of rubrics, and they managed to get some inside access, probably as part of the administrations earnest desire to look good during an election year (e.g. tough on nat'l security).

So, I wouldn't say this was leaked so much as a greater degree of selective cooperation from the White House after the NYT asked for information.

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It's hard not to note that the NYTimes taking its Public Editor's advice to "dig in" to the core of Obama happens to make Obama look like a strong, smart and decisive leader.

I don't doubt that the NYTimes is biased here, like most news sources. I just was drawing a distinction between an intentional leak initiated by the Obama administration and an NYT-initiated attempt to make his presidency look good.

Fair point.

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Originally Posted by wiggin

and the significance of june 1 is...?

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The terrible jobs/employment report (along with other economic reports that came out with poor numbers) was out on June 1st.

Oh, please. There's bad economic news almost every week... and I fail to see what connection the economy has with Obama's foreign policy. This is being used by the campaign to bolster his foreign policy credentials, not his economic ones.

Plus it would be an incredibly complex and pointless conspiracy to coordinate an off-topic positive NYTimes story with the release of bad employment numbers that wouldn't be known when said NYTimes story was being formulated.

Collusion seems a bit far fetched, just NYT trying to make Obama look good.

Well, looks like there's going to be an independent investigation into all these leaks. A reporter from the Washington Post said a really insightful thing on some TV show in the background: it's really critical to see if the administration pushed back against the Times publishing these stories.

We may remember how Bush invited the editor of the NYTimes to a personal meeting to prevent the publication of a story about how the US was monitoring financial transactions. The NYTimes editor came in his pants over having Bush begging him not to publish an article and told him no.

Some might say these leaks were more substantial, albeit they mostly served to fill-in details of things many people suspected/loosely knew about.

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Originally Posted by wiggin

Oh, please. There's bad economic news almost every week...

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Wrong. The US employment report is the most important and most relevant economic news of the month for the US. Euro news has nothing to do with Obama.

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and I fail to see what connection the economy has with Obama's foreign policy. This is being used by the campaign to bolster his foreign policy credentials, not his economic ones.

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That's the point: to plaster the foreign policy news over the economic news.

This doesn't need to be a big conspiracy to be timed like it was.