The Corporate Psychopaths Theory of the Global Financial Crisis

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Originally Posted by Aimless

Well then I guess we'll have to address the most relevant factors.

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As punishment for businessmen being self-interested? I think the Marxists tried that.

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Originally Posted by Loki

As punishment for businessmen being self-interested? I think the Marxists tried that.

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It's almost as if we we can't enforce laws against eg. misleading your clients without being Marxists.

That's not the point of the article.

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Originally Posted by Aimless

It's almost as if we we can't enforce laws against eg. misleading your clients without being Marxists.

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"The law is a lying contest."

Sad but true, and where the problem in enforcing all these laws that are solely based on intent come into play. It's got a lot more to do with the nature of ourselves and law/government than anything about sociopaths or business or j00s or GeeGee's going on about. And it's not a problem you magik away with a hand wave and things

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Originally Posted by Aimless

like support, therapy, transparency, policing, damage-control and, if all else fails, electrodes

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But you're getting closer to a solution with that last one... however, I'm thinking that zapping 7 billion people into brain damaged state is probably going to cause bigger problems than it fixes, FYI. :p

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Originally Posted by CitizenCain

It's got a lot more to do with the nature of ourselves and law/government than anything about sociopaths or business or j00s or GeeGee's going on about. And it's not a problem you magik away with a hand wave and things

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You're back to ~humans are evil, ban them~? The "nature" of humans, behaviorism and learned mores/values are part of psychology. :bored:

I was never at "humans are bad, ban them." That's a succinct statement of Miny's viewpoint or proposed solution or whatever.

I'm still and always at: human nature is inherently "evil," because "evil" is an unavoidable consequence of competition, which is an unavoidable consequence of scarcity, which is baked into the very nature of our universe at its most fundamental levels. Accept it and move on rather than being so incomprehensibly foolish as to try legislate away the nature of the entire cosmos.

You progressives are the ones who seem to think you can alter the fundamental nature of the universe by putting words to paper and calling it a legal code - don't put it back on me that you can't magik away the nature of the universe with ridiculous words and moronic ideas.

And we're back to lawless anarchy :noob:

Works for the animals... who, incidentally, act smarter than the majority of humanity. :downcast:

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Originally Posted by CitizenCain

I was never at "humans are bad, ban them." That's a succinct statement of Miny's viewpoint or proposed solution or whatever.

I'm still and always at: human nature is inherently "evil," because "evil" is an unavoidable consequence of competition, which is an unavoidable consequence of scarcity, which is baked into the very nature of our universe at its most fundamental levels. Accept it and move on rather than being so incomprehensibly foolish as to try legislate away the nature of the entire cosmos.

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Dude, you're taking "animal instincts" to its extreme and basest level. Or is that a religious-based analysis of humans as "inherently" evil, as a fallen species according to the Old Testament? :bulb:

Competition in the 21st century isn't the same competition our knuckle-dragging ancestors faced. First world nations don't have to compete for food, water, shelter (or even sex) based on scarcity of resources.

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You progressives are the ones who seem to think you can alter the fundamental nature of the universe by putting words to paper and calling it a legal code - don't put it back on me that you can't magik away the nature of the universe with ridiculous words and moronic ideas.

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Fundamental Nature of the Universe? Spare me your drama, and don't lecture "progressives". If we'd stopped at earlier heresy, the world would still be flat, the sun would still be revolving around the earth, and "legal code" would be written by the Vatican, Church of England, or Royalty/Kingdoms in general.

...and you continue to blaze new territories in the category "just not getting it."

But alrighty then, anyone who doesn't pretend that writing legislation will change the fundamental realities about our universe is a flat-Earth Vatican fundy or whatever. Thanks for helping us all see that. :rolleyes: