I.E. You don't want people you disagree with having any power over you. Got it.
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I.E. You don't want people you disagree with having any power over you. Got it.
I thought the game and picture threads were the serious discussion threads. I enjoy those. Usually not so much jackarsery going on there.
Er, that's not what he saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Loki
No, but what he just said is also at odds with what he said last time. He did object to the entire user-moderator idea and I don't think any of us has reason to think he's changed his mind about that, he's just ignoring his own general sentiments here because doing so enables an easier attack on his present focus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
Might have a point if he wasn't the worst offender when it came to being a nasty, aggressive, bile-spewing jackass, and you weren't mistaken about why he was ultimately banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGT
Not that I bothered to go back and read the ~year's worth of shit he posted during that latest absence of mine, but I rather suspect that his behavior didn't actually improve, and have concluded (based on the posting behavior preceding his ban), that he was in fact kicked out for being the jackass he was, who really just came here to relieve stress by abusing the other members. (And was ultimately the reason he was banned, if you go back and look - a number of people pointed it out in the lead-up and aftermath.)
So, you seem to be saying mutually exclusive things out of each side of your mouth again. One the one hand, we need to crack down on aggressive jackassery, on the other hand, cracking down on a particularly aggressive jackass shows that it's the Wild West and the moderators don't do shit. :bulb:
Um, alright. Not I expect that you'll correct this glaring instance of cognitive dissonance, or that pointing it out will change anything... it never does... but there it is anyway.
Is non-brutal jack-assery allowed? :noob:
Seems that way... lotta people sure do whine about it, though.
So, you can read my mind? Nice to hear that. Maybe you could point out exactly what is soooo at odds here?Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy
I distinctly remember a thread where Dread disliked the questions aimed at him and which he promptly closed on a whim. I also remember other members not being very happy about his one-sided exercise of power.
I also don't remember attacking Wraith or Rand. Maybe you could, while you're at it, dig up the post where I demanded their removal as mods? Have fun.
You explicitly said that mods shouldn't post...
It doesn't help that Nessus is being reticent about whom her fuckers are...
Most people don't talk about their former lovers quite that openly...Quote:
Originally Posted by Being
I think the cause of most of these problems are two fold. First everyone trying to save face, and look smart and intelligent at all times (which can mean faking even when ignorant/or unsure on a topic).
The second part is ideologies. People are married at times to mind-narrowing idealogies that make discussion or even small-points hard to get across. I vote Democrat, I'm not a democrat. I see the problem with unions, lobbyists, whatever I see how it corrupts both Republicans, and Democrats, it angers me. I see how successful our system is, all the good in our society, all our failures. The problems are complex we can't be married to our own ways of thinking, honestly there is more than one successful, more than one morally correct, way of governing, of executing plans, of interacting. Simply because you're a shy person whose always concious of what other people think, doesn't mean that's the only moral, or worthwhile way of interacting with people. If you're the confident, outspoken, opinionated individual doesn't mean you're living your life wrong. There are pros in both approaches, and there are moments where each is ideal, and there are many moments where both work well.
What I'm trying to get at is don't be married to one way of thinking there are many routes that lead to the same answer, that keep sacred the same set of goals.
Don't be afraid of looking dumb. When I say that, ya it's okay to be annoyed when you're wrong, that annoyance is what helps you try to stay informed, and try to be correct with what you say, but if you make a mistake, it's only logical to embrace not try to layer it with words and phrases to hide your mistake. I feel a lot of times people are playing to make themselves look good and others dumb. Anything they don't understand in a post they read is a mistake on the writer's part (that shows the writer is dumb/wrong, and they are right), as opposed to trying to find common ground, point out what you and the writer have in common, and why you're coming to different conclusions.
In order to break habits, it takes a lot of self-reflection and admission if you've been shallow in some aspects of your life, and secondly it takes a concious day by day, post by post, effort to break habits. Repeated concious behavior is the only way to break long built habits.
This isn't exactly the environment for such reflection though. Colloquial outbursts result in criticism and sarcasm (though this sarcasm is one of the reasons I enjoy the patrons of this forum), which only forces the speaker to retreat further into their shell, not to learn anything. Constructive criticism would obviously be helpful, but it's simply not in the nature of most people here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lebanese Dragon
Perhaps I'm a bit too infrequent of a visitor here to fix our inner politics, but I believe the solution is to make the forum bigger and promote it. With more patrons, we have more opinions to deal with and to debate rather than focus animosity towards certain members. Let us take in those of an intelligent but mild nature and broaden our topics. I have no specific suggestions for such natures, but a community consensus on how to expand the forum if we choose to do so, can only be beneficial.
New members don't stand a chance here. They might if we permabanned Loki and Kane. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Knux897
Not if they were conservatives. I'd take Loki being obnoxious over some of our posters' history or deliberate concerted thread-hijackings any day. Or the undiluted belligerence displayed by a certain European member.Quote:
Originally Posted by Being
Does he post like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy
MysteryPoster: I applaud the European Union's stance that US companies must clearly label any and all advertisements as altered if they show a clear blue sky, because as clearly defined by the European Union's regulations, a sky must be cloudy and grey.
OtherPoster: Thats preposterous. I can't believe you can support that. Skies can clearly be something other than cloudy and grey. A company should be allowed to use a clear sky in its advertisements without having to act like the sky being clear is a lie.
MysteryPoster: I would expect that from a US poster. You just don't like the EU exerting its authority over US companies simply because the US government refuses to do so.
OtherPoster: Here is me live streaming a video of the clear blue sky outside my house. How can you deny this? How can you state that the European Union is in the right to regulate business advertisements like this?
MysteryPoster: Because you've been persistently annoying, and refuse to debate this matter reasonably, OtherPoster, I've put you on ignore.
No, I'm pretty sure he's referring to a European from a neighboring country.
You guys know that MysteryPoster is going to be coming back sooner or later, right?
Is it August? :(
It's not as easy as it was, or as difficult as it could be, for the samurai in autumn...Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Well, passive aggression is certainly much better than undiluted belligerence. At least that's what certain people on this forum seem to think.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy
Yes. Unless there is an inbuilt feature that disallows Admins from being ignored, I'm probably still on ignore from when we were discussing an EU regulation that was absurd last time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wraith
Well then we'll have to narrow it down via what Fuzzy defines as belligerence. Its also going to be problematic as I don't readily keep track of everyone's nationality, and only remember it if its constantly referenced...for instance, Nessus being Finnish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Nessus isn't Finnish, she's from the New World
Wait whatQuote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
Anything outside of Sweden is the New World, especially Finland, which has a mild case of the Stockholm Syndrome. :(
It could've been an oblique reference to the New World Order, but that plan didn't exactly survive contact with the enemy :(
Bush Sr. rejected you?
Looks like I misremembered; substitute world with Europe.
More like.... uh... wait for it now.... jew world horderQuote:
New World Order
No, I'm not talking about Hazir. I've had my share of fights with him but I can't recall him trying to shut discussion down entirely. I was referring to Khend. He's been perfectly willing to just bury posters in bile if that's what it takes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Illusions
You know TWFers...bunch of bitchy little girls.
At least most of us aren't sexist.
Burn.
Or dismissive of burn victims.
Notice.
Now this is all of us playing nice (well, most of us).
Think I'm gonna get a cavity with you all being so sweet.
Or hurl.
Which cavity are you talking about? :o
This thread is gold.
The Swiss are good at appreciating other people's gold. :p