Socialism Fails Again

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Originally Posted by Lewkowski

Keeping an eye on people who are sympathizing with the enemy isn't a bad thing. Especially given the context of the situation where we knew there were communist spies working in the government and in other places. Now if someone was jailed just for a political viewpoint THAT would be a restriction on speech. It is not a restriction on speech if the government pays attention to people today that like to talk about how ISIS should take over.

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That is all well and good when you agree with who the government deems to be an enemy of the state, but maybe not so much if you don't. Was it okay for the government to spy on Martin Luther King Jr.? Was he really the kind of enemy we needed to worry about?

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Originally Posted by Enoch the Red

That is all well and good when you agree with who the government deems to be an enemy of the state, but maybe not so much if you don't. Was it okay for the government to spy on Martin Luther King Jr.? Was he really the kind of enemy we needed to worry about?

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That would depend on what evidence there was at the time they decided to investigate. The idea that 100% of the people investigated must have been our enemies is an impossible standard and is not reasonable.

Note how the main standard has consistently been: are they a different race or religion from the majority.

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Originally Posted by Lewkowski

Since I'm in favor of free speech I wouldn't be in favor of restrictions on political speech.

Your problem is you want speech to be evaluated on weather or not it 'hurts' or 'helps' society as a whole. Things that cause more harm than good in your eyes should be restricted. I reject that idea completely.

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The weather has nothing to do with it, but the corruption of political speech does. :bored:

Since this thread was about Venezuela, things have certainly not improved. But at least we know who to blame:confused:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...avez-oligarchs

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Originally Posted by Flixy

Since this thread was about Venezuela, things have certainly not improved. But at least we know who to blame:confused:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...avez-oligarchs

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LOL the British left is just as crazy as some of our loons.