I'm only actively arguing with Tear, I stopped fighting with the rest. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by littlelolligagged
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I'm only actively arguing with Tear, I stopped fighting with the rest. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by littlelolligagged
I wonder if you notice the irony of those two statements given your recent behavior. I'll guess no, but who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
Yes, actually. Something like that. You see, when Silver attacked Lolli with all kinds of ugly stuff, I stepped up and took a side. When Cain tried to get the kiddies to commit suicide, I called him on it. When people have said homophobic, racist, sexist whatever, I always step up and say "you've gone too far." That's what decent people do in a community.
When Cain makes grotesque, cruel and homophobic comments about the illness that almost killed me? Nothing. Outrage when Silverlink says stuff less offensive stuff, but nothing against Cain because he is amusing where Silver was abrasive.
You see, Steely. It's not the offender, it's the offense. If you let an abomination pass without comment, you are complicit. If you here somebody drop the N-word at a party and just turn away in discomfort, you are complicit. You are, in fact, ethically compromised.
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Originally Posted by Loki
Oh, did I miss that he said he'd talk it over with them first? And that I described a pop in the nose?
Orders of magnitude, Loki. You're a flaming hypocrite. Lots of gnashing "woe is me," when somebody calls you on something. Nothing as long as your "position" here isn't threatened.
Right, and good luck to ya Cain, for building a retirement of "dollars" that doesn't involve other people, in any way. Let alone gummints.
Go on Mister Liberty, declare your independence NOW. No need to wait, or plan, or save. Just take your pants off and wander around until you find your "island". It could be a cardboard box in the Bronx, over a steam vapor in the sidewalk.
Oh wait, others made the box and the steam. Scratch that.
Find your way to a southern beach. There ya go. Before you know it, some babe will appear, and she'll also have her own boat, and will agree to ferry you to a deserted island! Before she services your sexual needs, she can drop you off and wave goodbye matey!
Make sure you've got plenty of gold coins, rum, guns, and bullets, just in case. To trade with those others whom you don't want to find you, or deal with. Pesky people, they always want something! Even being freeee of them means planning for them, as enemies or interlopers. Bummer.
Matches and a tarp might help, too. Forget the internet, or electricity, you won't need it where you're going. You want to be freeeeee of others, right? Right.
:rolleyes:
So you threatening violence: perfectly fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
You using foul language: perfectly fine.
Anyone else doing the same: ban!
So you expect people to stand up for you? You've gotta be living in some kind of Disney movie or some shit. Real life doesn't work this way. Just because you defend someone, it does not mean they in turn will defend you. you chose to be altruistic in an egoist world. I'm not going to bash you for saying that because I thought that if i did something, the other party had to reciprocate. I learned that the hard way and lost a very close friend. She doesn't even talk to me anymore.
What did I say, Loki? Really. Because your representation of it sounds suspiciously off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
And has somebody threatened your life?
I never complained swearing directed at me, did I? Care to make something else up?Quote:
You using foul language: perfectly fine.
Anyone else doing the same: ban!
I think the real problem is that he expects people to jump to his defense after he provokes the attacks.
I'm also not entirely sure how he has turned Cain into a homophobe.
And, possibly, because we don't give a rats ass about the feud you two have been running for what, six years now?Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
He sees Kane's open acceptance of homosexuality, and his use of it for "humorous" comments as cover for Kane's deep-seated homophobia. Which is more of Tear's own belligerence and demonization *speaking of old feuds, didn't you once take the "ban him" line against me, for my pointing out this behavior of yours Tear?*Quote:
Originally Posted by littlelolligagged
The fact that you're continuing with this act despite everyone seeing straight through it speaks volumes about you. You really need to learn some self-control, especially considering that you're far more likely to be the aggressor than the victim here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
Where is your boundary?Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy
This?
"Oh, you weren't around for that? Apparently our dear ][ear was drafted to fight in Nicaragua. Well, so he claimed, anyway. I guess "believe what I say about the military because I was a Contra" was more convincing than "believe what I say about the military because I'm a cum-guzzling coward whose closest experience to combat was getting renal failure from an untreated STD I picked up being gay-for-pay near the local military base.""
Really? What horrific things have I said that are comparable, Loki? Seriously. Name them. Better, name what I said to you, since you seem to be conflating the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
I'll tell you a little secret, and by secret, I mean something a two year old could figure out, about Cain: he likes it when you do stuff like that. He enjoys flame wars, and he likes trading insults in long line by line posts. What you are doing is indulging in behavior which is just going to cause even more of the same behavior you're allegedly trying to stop. Hence the little joke I posted: this is obviously not about bear hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
As did I, since that was an unprovoked and unjustified attack, rather than another pointless and irritating escalation in a pointless and irritating vendetta which is of interest to absolutely fucking no one other than the two fucking idiots involved with it. In short, no one is coming to your aid, because no one wants to take your side because of your own irritating ass behavior.Quote:
You see, when Silver attacked Lolli with all kinds of ugly stuff, I stepped up and took a side. When Cain tried to get the kiddies to commit suicide, I called him on it. When people have said homophobic, racist, sexist whatever, I always step up and say "you've gone too far." That's what decent people do in a community.
I don't find Cain that amusing.Quote:
but nothing against Cain because he is amusing where Silver was abrasive.
An "N-word" without provocation is different than an "N-word" in the middle of a screaming argument between retards.Quote:
You see, Steely. It's not the offender, it's the offense. If you let an abomination pass without comment, you are complicit. If you here somebody drop the N-word at a party and just turn away in discomfort, you are complicit. You are, in fact, ethically compromised.
Tear, why did you come back?
I mean, if you came back to actually participate, that would be great. Unfortunately, it looks like you only came back to pick fights with everyone.
I'll second that. Maybe just maybe no one would pick on Tear here if he didn't flame someone with every other post he makes. Even a dog would eventually learn to change its behavior after disliking the consequences of its old behavior.
I didn't ask for this, actually.
"Oh, you weren't around for that? Apparently our dear ][ear was drafted to fight in Nicaragua. Well, so he claimed, anyway. I guess "believe what I say about the military because I was a Contra" was more convincing than "believe what I say about the military because I'm a cum-guzzling coward whose closest experience to combat was getting renal failure from an untreated STD I picked up being gay-for-pay near the local military base."
Although Cain would clearly say that I did. Nice.
You know, fuck you too, Lolli. You got all hurt when Silver was making his ugly comments about you, but you don't stand for anything either. Why the hell did I stick my neck out for you or some sort of principle? You're just another reveler in the CC game. Let's see who can score cool points. You don't make any freakin stands either, do you? Well done! :up:
Really? Personal attacks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Loki, go lie somewhere where they don't smell it for what it is.
For the behavior between the two of you? I don't have one. You long since earned "a plague on both your houses." I don't care what he says to you. If you two shot each other, I'd thank God for the blessing of silence.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
I don't exactly see what I did to warrant that comment (and a couple of others) that were way beyond the pale of what has gone before.
Take a nap, Tear. Really. You sound.....what's the word.....unusually combative.
Speaking of smells. Since my son moved back home the other day, there's a lingering odor of smelly feet-sweat-shampoo-hormones-incense-pot-pizza. It's really strange and rather nauseating.
You think anyone gives a shit whether your responses are proportionate to the other's, at this late date? You burned your bridges on this topic long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
Listen to Fuzzball, he's saying what everyone is thinking. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy
You know what Cain is like and how he reacts to things. What exactly did you think was going to happen if you constantly follow him round and flame him in ever single thread he posts in? He was going to say "Wow, Tear, you're right! I am a reprehensible human being for saying all those things about you, and also for the other mean things I said to other people. I will mend my ways immediately."? If you really thought that was going to happen then you're delusional, if you didn't then what exactly did you think you were going to achieve?Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
Which part of that post was a personal attack? Or are you defining a personal attack as anything that's not laudatory of you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
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Originally Posted by Steely Glint
Look, ass, I wasn't following Cain and flaming him. I have as much right as anybody here to post in threads. Oh no, did I dare say something Cain disagreed with?
That's really nice, man. Because we've got a history of arguing, he has magical dispensation to say heinously evil things? How, exactly, is he different that Silverlink. Silver, too, was angry at me when he wished for my kidney disease to kill me. Did that excuse his behavior? No. And that's what you're doing: you're excusing the extreme Cain when to "just because he's angry." That's not an excuse, Steely, and shame on you for trying to make it.
"Oh, you weren't around for that? Apparently our dear ][ear was drafted to fight in Nicaragua. Well, so he claimed, anyway. I guess "believe what I say about the military because I was a Contra" was more convincing than "believe what I say about the military because I'm a cum-guzzling coward whose closest experience to combat was getting renal failure from an untreated STD I picked up being gay-for-pay near the local military base."Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Dunno man. Is that a personal attack. Seems, um, less than laudatory of me, yes.
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Originally Posted by ']['ear
You do it all the time. So? Double standard? I have the right to be wound up with him when Cain tells me my kidney disease was a self-inflicted disease, and Steely responds that it's my fault and it's all OK.
Horse shit, Loki. How do you look in the mirror every morning?
That's sure as hell what it looks like you're doing.Quote:
Look, ass, I wasn't following Cain and flaming him.
I'm not excusing his behavior any more than I'm excusing yours. You've both be responsible for escalating and prolonging this insipid vendetta, and suddenly you're angry because the next escalation crossed a line you're not comfortable with? You and your stupid pride and grudges are just as responsible for this situation as he is, and we're all so fucking sick of clicking on any given thread and seeing you too flaming each other over stuff noone gives a shit about to actually bother getting offended over this latest 'outrage'.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
Trying to imagine a comparable insult to you. Put yourself in my shoes. You wouldn't be enraged? I don't recall anything close to this ever coming your way (it would have been an instant permaban in CC. In fact, it was.)Quote:
Originally Posted by GGT
Have you considered the remote possibility that insulting virtually everyone you come in contact with here is not the best way to garner sympathy?
Then you have no idea what was going on. Cain just doesn't like anti-libertarian cartoons. I posted that in the libertarian thread, and that's what precipitated his comment. See Chaloobi's response as proof. Cain had no excuse, he just knew he would get away with it because y'all are spineless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
1) There's a difference between people arguing and abomination posts. I may be guilty of the former, but not the latter. And don't you dare insinuate that I do.Quote:
I'm not excusing his behavior any more than I'm excusing yours. You've both be responsible for escalating and prolonging this insipid vendetta, and suddenly you're angry because the next escalation crossed a line you're not comfortable with? You and your stupid pride and grudges are just as responsible for this situation as he is, and we're all so fucking sick of clicking on any given thread and seeing you too flaming each other over stuff noone gives a shit about to actually bother getting offended over this latest 'outrage'.
2) There's a qualitative difference. If that kind of comment was enough to have Silver banned and for Dread to chase him off when he poked his nose in here, then a comment that is much worse deserves the same punishment.
3) In the past I don't ask for Cain to be banned because of anything he has said to me. I supported a ban for trying to get suicidal kids to off themselves. Mea culpa, man. I'd do exactly the same thing over again.
I care. :noob: I hope he's not in the middle of organ rejection. Really. You guys have no idea how steroids or anti-rejection drugs can influence behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy
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Are delusions part of your illness, now?Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
What, a cartoon joking libertarians in a libertarian thread?
Fuzzy, I've long been mystified by the utter lack of censure of Cain from you. For a man professing to be a ethical Christian, it is baffling. But hey, as long as he doesn't say that your personal hell was caused by prostituting yourself and thus self-inflicting, eh? Maybe that's why you're quiet: you're cowed.
Oh, well, as a peace offering, I'll mail you a mirror. I just need you to give me your address.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
I don't need to, I can quit any time I want to. I just don't want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
It is. I have to get to know someone and figure out that they're particularly vile example of humanity before I enjoy their suffering. With the Westboro Baptist Church, I think it's more of a hating homos thing. And straight soldiers... and possibly anyone who doesn't hate gays. Actually, I think they just kinda hate everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
You know, as was said at the time, and has been said by many different people since... an attention-whoring emo is not actually suicidal, but it's fun to treat them like they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
I am evil incarnate.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
Feel better about yourself now? Standing up to pure evil, for the sake of all that is good and holy, and not just because you're an overgrown, narcissistic little child having a temper tantrum?
If he was capable of learning, or you know, hearing anything he disagrees with, I'd be be worried about you spoiling my fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
You mean that disgusting, homophobic promotion of anal rape? You should be banned for that. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
It must be that Fuzzy's a homophobe too. Obviously, only a closet homophobe could be unoffended by my blatant bigotry, therefore, Fuzzy must be homophobic. Wait, we're banning for that now, aren't we?Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
No, Fuzzy is just a coward. He won't criticize you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenCain
You, you're just psychopathic troll.
Actually it's probably more related to his ability to learn. I'll let him try to explain it to you for the 5th fucking time if he wants to.Quote:
Originally Posted by ']['ear
Hurt feelings in a thread about someone's political ideology? It's more likely than you think!
Alternative punchline: I love the smell of the old CC in the morning