Republicans—the hymenity

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Originally Posted by Steely Glint

Here is a (non-exhaustive) list of things I have absolutely zero patience for:

* Ostensible "liberals" who make excuses for sexual abusers. I don't think anyone on here was defending Polanski, but there are other examples out there. CK Louis, for example still has his defenders. It happens. Al Franken had excuses made for him. I have nothing but contempt for it.
* People who's sole interest in bringing up these cases is not some genuine care for the victims, but because they think it's some kind of "gotcha" for liberals. I see you, shitheads.

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For a minute then I thought you were referring to CS Lewis and I thought "he's been dead over 50 years why would anyone be trying to tarnish him"?

CS Lewis Tweeted bad things and now he has to be cancelled :sour:

I don't think there's any Twitter in Wonderland but its certainly Though the Looking Glass.

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Originally Posted by RandBlade

I don't think there's any Twitter in Wonderland but its certainly Though the Looking Glass.

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CS Lewis != Lewis Carroll.

CS Lewis was clearly the reincarnation of Lewis Carroll. They were both English, both noted Anglicans, both wrote some children's lit, and CS Lewis was born less than a year after Carroll died.

Well a lot of SJWs would dislike him for a variety of reasons including this quote:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

He said while applauding intrusive surveillance of Muslims, extraordinary rendition, torture, and state killings. Get bent you goddamn' tool.

Monitoring public facebook posts by people with jihadist tenancies is intrusive surveillance? I also find the idea of American citizens subject to rendition and torture to be abhorrent and shouldn't be allowed. And are you referring to the Obama drone strike on an American citizen? Because I don't recall supporting that one.

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Originally Posted by Enoch the Red

CS Lewis != Lewis Carroll.

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Indeed. Took the mistaken identity lark a bit far.

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Originally Posted by RandBlade

Indeed. Took the mistaken identity lark a bit far.

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I thought maybe you were just a little tired and emotional on account of the New Year's celebrations.

Steely meant Louis CK ;)

We knew that, he wrote that. It was me that brought up CS Lewis.

Wow. I'm disappointed you guys took a pause on this lunacy. I can't figure out what's more stupid - everything (almost) Lewk posts, or the time and energy everyone else puts into rebutting/ ridiculing him and his posts. One would think, after all this time, that.... nah, forget it.

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Originally Posted by Lewkowski

Punishing people harshly for abusing children means less children will be abused in the future. I'm for harsh mandatory sentencing laws on child rape. Are you?

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Yes, because that's a just punishment. Your 'deterrent' theories are still bullshit, however.

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And yes I bring up the Polanski case frequently because he was defended by SO MANY liberals in the media and entertainment industry.

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Roy Moore.

Roy Moore (if I recall correctly) denied any sort of child rape. Polanski admitted it. There's a key difference, some people didn't think Bill Cosby was a rapist until a lot more people came forward. Defending someone you may think is innocent is a far cry from defending someone who is 100% guilty.

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Originally Posted by Lewkowski

Roy Moore (if I recall correctly) denied any sort of child rape. Polanski admitted it. There's a key difference, some people didn't think Bill Cosby was a rapist until a lot more people came forward. Defending someone you may think is innocent is a far cry from defending someone who is 100% guilty.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8047246.html

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“Take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus,” Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler told The Washington Examiner. “There's just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual.”

In the Bible, Mary is the mother of Jesus, and Joseph became her husband. Beliefs about the specific story of Joseph and Mary and Jesus' birth vary widely in Christian history and across traditions. Mary is referred to in scripture as a virgin, but there is disagreement about what that means. Generally, however, Christians believe that Mary was a virgin when he was born. Joseph is usually referred to as Jesus' “father” or a father figure.

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Also? This guy was a GOP, the national, main stream right-of-center party of the USA, candidate for senator for the state of Alabama, which is a whole ass state. A state is the top level political unitary division of the USA, and because of their small number and high degree of autonomy, a state senator is a considerably more important position than most elected representatives in other, comparable democracies. The president of the United States, also a republican, happily and publicly endorsed this man, and it wasn't like a form endorsement either. He was right behind him.

So, don't sit there and pretend that deep concern about the victims of childhood sexual abuse or calling out hypocrisy of people who make excuses for abusers because it's politically expedient when all you had to say about this when it we went over it back in 2017 was 'durrr, well maybe the Alabamans still voting for this guy really don't think he's guilty".