From what we know now it seems more likely that what was told about his status during his sickbed were blatant lies. Unless of course ECMO became a first defense in the NHS.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
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From what we know now it seems more likely that what was told about his status during his sickbed were blatant lies. Unless of course ECMO became a first defense in the NHS.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
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Originally Posted by Hazir
I don't know. I think it's clear he was sick and he deteriorated and once he was taken to ICU they were quite clear it was serious. You don't get taken to ICU for shits and giggles whatever fools like Carole Codswallop infer on Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
The information is hidden in de nurses he thanked for their roles in saving his life; Luis Pitarma is 'part of the extracorporeal membrane oxygenation programme', though there is some discussion about it, I understand you don't use the procedure early on in treatment. Things typically have gone seriously wrong before you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
Yes which is why he was in ICU. There was no hiding the fact he was critically ill in ICU. Only a few "journalists" like Carole Cadswallop claimed he wasn't really ill and was "in hiding" a Tweet I believe she's now deleted.
He took 10 days to go to hospital and then 24 hours more to go to ICU - it follows the pattern of other patients that if you don't get better after ten days of symptoms then you can deteriorate fast. When he went to ICU there were journalists and others reporting that he had a 50/50 chance of survival - indeed rather sickly before the bookmakers suspended the market the odds of him "leaving office" in 2020 (which is an ongoing market all the time normally) came in to close to 50%. The bookmakers rightly suspended the market as it's meant to be a politics not morbidity market.
It was implied he was getting oxygen and otherwise doing well. Now it turns out that - unless they were trying out something new - he was dealing with (potential) failures of heart lungs and other organs. I call that being excessively creative with the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
Don't you think British people should know that their PM could possibly die within hours? Rather than being told he's all chipper and sitting up in bed?
You were annoyed at the repeated asking of the question who was in charge. Now it turns out the question is still: 'who was in charge?'
They said he was critically ill. I said he was critically ill and the answer to the question "who was in charge" was Dominic Raab. It still is Dominic Raab, not Boris Johnson by the way as Johnson is still not working and is recovering as is standard for anyone who has been in ICU. I think we all knew the PM could possibly die within hours, the announcement he had survived the night and remained in ICU - then the announcement he had survived a second night and was improving and now in a stable condition in ICU . . . it didn't take a genius to see this was serious.
Only idiot extremist journalists like the ever absurd Carole and The Economist's European Editor who couldn't see the woods for the trees pretended this was fake.
Thanks for repeating the facts, now compare them to what was officially said.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
County voted yesterday to enact a curfew that started on the same day. People went bonkers. We got Facebook alerts, forced SMS alerts, county texts, and phone calls. Haven't heard yet how many people didn't get the memo.
24 hour curfew ?
No just 9pm - 5am.
Florida being run by a Trumplite moron we didn't have any official state wide rules concerning movement. It's all being done in a half ass county by county method.
The governor did do some lip service that it's "safer at home" and only leave the house for essential services, but nearly everything is considered essential, from chruches to WWE wrestling.
Trump tried playing a propaganda video at his last "covid press briefing", ended up confirming to the world his absolute failure to prepare for this pandemic.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...s/coronavirus/
Defunding the WHO mid-pandemic to try to divert attention away from your staggering incompetence is as dangerous as it is pathetic. The rest of this briefing was absolutely fucking mental ofc.
WHO carried water for China. Until they get new leadership that isn't as corrupt no tax dollars should go to them. They also need to Taiwan.
Do you dispute this account of The WHO Timeline COVID-19 ? Do you have alternative facts you'd like to share?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewkowski
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/c...ly-kept-secret
Considering Florida is a fucking mecca for old farts, this type of bullshit is only going to end up killing more and more people.
Stop, you're being stupid again. Any stupid case for defunding WHO during a pandemic is a stronger case for locking up your president, most of his administration, a fair number of GOP congressmen, GOP politicians and an army of Republican pundits. I cannot believe how easy it is to con you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewkowski
Why? Trump hasn't and isn't going to. Taiwan doesn't want them to either. Is the status quo a case of the Emperor wearing no clothes? Yes. Is that ridiculous? Absolutely. Is pointing it out worth someone (maybe not you, Lewk, but certainly people elsewhere though I realize that instantly guarantees you don't care) getting "beheaded" by the Emperor in retaliation? Not at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewkowski
Signing back on. Family got it, mostly mild cases. One fatality of older relative.
Amazing how this confirms everyone's political ideas.
I'm just gonna leave this here because it is too glorious to not be shared:
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Sorry to hear about your relative, but glad you're okay :up: are you in NYC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreadnaught
Lewk no longer gets to complain about BLM or the Occupy movement blocking highways.
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Fucking morons.
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Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer
At least with the cars they were protesting social distancing while practicing social distancing. That shows them to be the brain dead mob that they are.
I don't claim any sort of kinship with these retards. While I agree in principal with *some* of what they were protesting their execution was absolute shit.
We all need a laugh, please explain what you agree with and maybe some sort of proof that such things were presented at the protest
Sorry for your loss. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreadnaught
Do you mean within your family, or the US at large?Quote:
Amazing how this confirms everyone's political ideas.
It's fascinating from a human behavior aspect, but not sure it confirms political ideas. If anything this virus is exposing hypocrisies and cognitive dissonance among Republicans and red states. They used to complain about "Death Panels" (in the ACA) and claim to be pro-life, but now they're willing to spread an infection that *will* kill people....so they can get their hair done and buy grass seed? :picard:
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Originally Posted by Lewkowski
Do you think the virus recognizes the *principles* they were protesting? Like the local government limiting some of their freedom of movement with regulation, because they wouldn't voluntarily cooperate? Come on, man. Stop propping up teh stupid by calling it liberty. And educate yourself about R Nought variables:
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/25/1/17-1901_article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ic-jam-protestQuote:
Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer
The new version of the order banned travel between homes and didn't grant exemptions for workers like landscapers, whom politicians argue can work while remaining socially distant. Protesters were also upset that normal life has been shut down all over the state.
The idea of not allowing people who can safely social distance to work is stupid and asinine.
Those protesters don't care about "safe" social distancing. They don't even care about Public Health "safety". If they did, they would have voluntarily stayed at *one* home and not tried to travel to their *second* vacation lake homes, spreading germs along the way.
When people choose to act stupid, they can't blame local government for enacting laws that protect everyone else from their stupidity. :bored:
I wonder how safe this is? They want your SSN, Date of Birth, Street Address and Zip Code. Do you trust this government web site with this info? Let us know if you try it.
https://sa.www4.irs.gov/irfof-wmsp/login
It is a page you get to from here, https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/econ...mpact-payments
Just keep clicking Get My Payment to get there.
That's a tangent best addressed in other threads. ;)
'The Public Deserves to Know': Lone Watchdog Demands Federal Reserve Release Names of Corporations Receiving Taxpayer Bailouts
"The Fed will soon lend trillions to companies. But it has not committed to disclosing which private companies are getting taxpayer-backed support. That's wrong."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...y-a-total-mess
What a shit show, hilarious and completely in line with this adminstration, but still a shit show.
And it's already been rescinded. It lasted 3 days because the public is to stupid to understand what a curfew means and the board didn't want to fuss about with enforcement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer
Well between Sweden and America I guess we're going to get some real world experiments as to how much lockdowns matter.
I think big city public transport is the worst vector for this virus.
https://thehill.com/changing-america...-may-have-been
These deaths are squarely on the head of Trump, who spent months denying the severity of this pandemic.
TBH, he wasn't exactly the only one playing down the risk of the corona virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer
You're right, his parrot fans were too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
