Happy now BLM?

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One yells at him to stick his legs straight out before him, then another tells him to cross his legs. It's not surprising if someone gets confused by seemingly contradictory or ambiguous orders in a situation like this. But in today's America, black people aren't allowed to be confused. This guy got off easy with just some unwarranted physical abuse and likely a costly trip to jail. Might just as easily have ended up dead.

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I'm not going to argue, that was bull shit. I do get the feeling the guy was either on something, hard of hearing or developmentally challenged. The instructions to straighten his legs was not a complicated one. Either way he was no threat and I agree he should not have been tazed.

Thank goodness it was Tazer and not a gun though right? One of the major reasons I think Tazers are good, sadly liberals often push back and don't want cops to have that sort of gear.

God forbid cops were trained to diffuse a situation without using any weapon.

https://chicagodefender.com/2018/06/...year-old-girl/

I'm beginning to think the US govt hates children.

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Originally Posted by Lewkowski

Thank goodness it was Tazer and not a gun though right? One of the major reasons I think Tazers are good, sadly liberals often push back and don't want cops to have that sort of gear.

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Originally Posted by Loki

God forbid cops were trained to diffuse a situation without using any weapon.

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What situation? The guy was sitting on the pavement and gave every indication of being stoned out of his mind. Tazers are supposed to be there to disable someone who's a threat, not to punish someone for not following your commands promptly enough.

If liberals don't want cops to have this sort of gear, it's because they clearly can't be trusted with them, as this video demonstrates.

Presumably they need to detain a person in that state of mind who's outside, for his safety if no one else's.

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Originally Posted by Steely Glint

If liberals don't want cops to have this sort of gear, it's because they clearly can't be trusted with them, as this video demonstrates.

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There is indeed a lot of evidence that cops often misuse tasers, just as they misuse all other forms of force.

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Originally Posted by Steely Glint

What situation? The guy was sitting on the pavement and gave every indication of being stoned out of his mind. Tazers are supposed to be there to disable someone who's a threat, not to punish someone for not following your commands promptly enough.

If liberals don't want cops to have this sort of gear, it's because they clearly can't be trusted with them, as this video demonstrates.

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And if he didn't have a taser? Let's do a little thought experiment. What do you think this officer in this situation would have done?

Instead of a thought experiment, can we just fast-forward to whatever point you're trying to make?

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Originally Posted by Steely Glint

Instead of a thought experiment, can we just fast-forward to whatever point you're trying to make?

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That a Taser made it less likely that the person gets shot with a gun.

Are you the same Lewkowski whose been defending US cops all through this thread? I was sure we only had one Lewkowski. Seems like you have an even lower opinion of your police than I do.

Uh, can we agree that if someone would resort to lethal force in that situation, they shouldn't be trusted with any ​weapon?

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Are you the same Lewkowski whose been defending US cops all through this thread? I was sure we only had one Lewkowski. Seems like you have an even lower opinion of your police than I do.

Uh, can we agree that if someone would resort to lethal force in that situation, they shouldn't be trusted with any ​weapon?

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Get big enough numbers even small percentages amount to several lives. If a taser means someone is even .001% less likely to die in a police encounter and we know that the police (or any organization) will not always respond appropriately 100% of the time why not? Furthermore Tasers have additional advantages in terms in terms of quickly and effectively enforcing compliance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser_safety_issues

Also, police should not be using painful electric shocks to enforce compliance, as we do not yet live in an 80s sci-fi dystopia.

Compliance is not a reason to use a weapon.

Fearing for your safety or the safety of others is the only reason.

Even if someone is running away that is not justification to use a weapon.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser_safety_issues

Also, police should not be using painful electric shocks to enforce compliance, as we do not yet live in an 80s sci-fi dystopia.

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Pain compliance is a defacto standard. Grappling isn't ideal for a lot of reasons.

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Even if someone is running away that is not justification to use a weapon.

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Unless they stole some toothpaste. Then going all-out Rambo on them is justified.

https://www.google.se/amp/s/amp.elpa.../amp/765398002

If we banned these incompetents from working as cops, there wouldn't be many cops left.

https://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf...of_of_mur.html

If BLM protesters would instead work to help police and end the 'stop snitching' bull shit maybe this guy would be alive. Ironic that he should be a victim of black on black urban crime as opposed to police brutality.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/baltimore-...opstories.html

Just another hoax.

Lewk calls that "black-on-black crime", it meshes nicely with his racist views.

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Lewk calls that "black-on-black crime", it meshes nicely with his racist views.

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What racist views? Point out a fact that you are more likely to die via crime in your own neighborhood as opposed to a police officer shooting you isn't racist. It is reality.

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...h-robbery.html

What are the odds this guy is still alive today if he's black?

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http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...h-robbery.html

What are the odds this guy is still alive today if he's black?

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Pretty good actually.

Being deaf while Asian: https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/am...y-13159009.php

Cops seem to have no self-control:

https://www.propublica.org/article/e...handcuffed-man

Note the inability of the police to police their own.

Isolated 9 incidents.

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Cops seem to have no self-control:

https://www.propublica.org/article/e...handcuffed-man

Note the inability of the police to police their own.

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Don't assault people with bodily fluids and you don't get your face beat. Seems fair.

Do you care about anything in the Constituin that comes before or after the 2nd amendment?

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Do you care about anything in the Constituin that comes before or after the 2nd amendment?

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Spitting is not protected under the 1st amendment. That's assault.

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Don't assault people with bodily fluids and you don't get your face beat. Seems fair.

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No it doesn't. The minimum force needed is all that should be used and 2 wrongs don't make a right.

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Spitting is not protected under the 1st amendment. That's assault.

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There is a punishment for assault. And a process for procuring that punishment. But you're interested in neither.

Lewk applauds the psychological and physical abuse of brown children. That's where the bar is set. You're expecting too much from this ludicrous creature.

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There is a punishment for assault. And a process for procuring that punishment. But you're interested in neither.

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The options were to forcibly gag the prisoner or use pain compliance to ensure the action stops. I'm sure if he was gagged so he was unable to speak or spit you'd have issues with that too.

WTF is wrong with you, Lewk? Seriously.

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The options were to forcibly gag the prisoner or use pain compliance to ensure the action stops. I'm sure if he was gagged so he was unable to speak or spit you'd have issues with that too.

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No, Lewk, I'm concerned with constitutional rights. You are not.

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Originally Posted by Loki

No, Lewk, I'm concerned with constitutional rights. You are not.

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So let's make you absolute King here. A criminal is spitting on an officer. What should happen?

Obviously he should receive a dozen blows to the head. According to the law.

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Originally Posted by Lewkowski

So let's make you absolute King here. A criminal is spitting on an officer. What should happen?

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He should be arrested.

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Originally Posted by Lewkowski

So let's make you absolute King here. A criminal is spitting on an officer. What should happen?

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Gag him, charge him with assaulting an officer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spit_hood

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Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spit_hood

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Hah I knew it!

"The spit hoods have been criticised for breaching human rights guidelines and critics call the hoods primitive, cruel and degrading."

Goes to my point that it doesn't even matter what they do, the police will always get attacked by the left.