So I graduated college...

People make mistakes. Most mistakes are rectifiable as long as one is willing to pay a high enough cost. Aren't you meant to be the "people make mistakes for factors outside of their control and we should help them" liberal? Or are you only nice to people you don't know?

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Originally Posted by GGT

Hello? What makes you think any military branch, let alone the Marines, would accept you with that kind of history, attitude, or expectation? :bulb:

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Originally Posted by GGT

I'm actually trying to help him. It doesn't appear that he's had anyone telling him hard truths. He's spent at least four years getting a college degree, with a music focus, getting kicked out of ROTC, and trying to find his way into The Marines....as an Officer....via military band.

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I'm fairly certain the last thing they want to see is someone who quits after the first try. Hell, I know my path doesn't make much sense, but its what I have to work off of. Music was never my focus in college; History and Political Science were. Those are traditionally fantastic backgrounds for officers to study. I've come to terms with not being able to commission now, and possibly still not being able to later. My overriding goal is to be in the service in whatever capacity possible. If that means enlisting, then so be it. If I have to pursue music to get better chances of enlisting, then so be it.

I have no problem with hard truths, but I don't see where my attitude is flawed. My expectation is that this is gonna be a very difficult task, not some cakewalk I can just walk into with no problem. If you're basing your judgement off of my GPA, my reply is twofold: I found I greatly disliked engineering, my original goal, and I was a poor student in my first two years. Bluntly, I'm educated, in decent shape, and have skills that the military requires. Why do you think they wouldn't want me?

I'm more curious about your reasons for wanting them :noob:

The guy asked for advice, not to be lectured or have his life goals questioned.

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Originally Posted by Loki

The guy asked for advice, not to be lectured or have his life goals questioned.

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Man, I'm just curious. I have absolutely no relevant advice to contribute and little else to offer beyond encouragement in the search for happiness and self-fulfilment :heart:

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Originally Posted by Loki

The guy asked for advice, not to be lectured or have his life goals questioned.

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Originally Posted by coinich

I'm fairly certain the last thing they want to see is someone who quits after the first try. Hell, I know my path doesn't make much sense, but its what I have to work off of.

Music was never my focus in college; History and Political Science were. Those are traditionally fantastic backgrounds for officers to study. I've come to terms with not being able to commission now, and possibly still not being able to later.

My overriding goal is to be in the service in whatever capacity possible. If that means enlisting, then so be it. If I have to pursue music to get better chances of enlisting, then so be it.

I have no problem with hard truths, but I don't see where my attitude is flawed. My expectation is that this is gonna be a very difficult task, not some cakewalk I can just walk into with no problem. If you're basing your judgement off of my GPA, my reply is twofold: I found I greatly disliked engineering, my original goal, and I was a poor student in my first two years. Bluntly, I'm educated, in decent shape, and have skills that the military requires. Why do you think they wouldn't want me?

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Bolded parts are the answers already within you. Read your own words, then read them again. :up:

Your attitude isn't "flawed". Your main focus is clearly Military Service, with a frustration in how to get there, using the skills and education you already have and can offer as strengths. (Hint, it might be your Poli-Sci and History focus that's more important, regardless of your grades, not Engineering or Music).



<Anecdote: I know a young man whose life path was always military service, in some capacity. His parents tried to dissuade him during HS years, putting him on on the academic/college track early on. After graduation he applied to all the "top" universities and colleges...as well as West Point. He was accepted everywhere he applied, and was one signature away from West Point. But his folks pressured convinced him to use his talents and skills in corporate American instead.

Six years later...after a degree in Economics and working an Executive track job with great salary, benefits, and promising "upward mobility"...he finally decided to follow his heart, and signed up with the Marines. His father was particularly disappointed, saying he'd wasted a $200,000 degree, and his entire future. :eek:

His Officer Commission ceremony was very moving. Happiest and proudest group I've ever witnessed. Even his old man finally realized, reluctantly, that it takes a special kind of character, motivation, and discipline to follow that path. Against all odds or nay-sayers.>