To make good comparisons we'll need to look at full data when its available over a decent period. Perhaps from say 1/1/20 to 31/12/20 so long as the outbreak does end this year.
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To make good comparisons we'll need to look at full data when its available over a decent period. Perhaps from say 1/1/20 to 31/12/20 so long as the outbreak does end this year.
You used Spain as an example of poor reporting while UK is much better - they have a similar period and are much closer in reporting, so I'm still not sure why you think the UK magically reports so much better when the British numbers appear to be off by about 60%.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
I wrote that before those figures were quoted, not after it.
Very interesting comment from another site.Quote:
The FT estimates of excess mortality by country are especially interesting when you also look at their estimates for specific large cities or areas. For example (figures shown are the 2020 increase to date in mortality from all causes compared with an average year):
UK +61%, London +135%
France +31%, Ile de France +137%
Sweden +29%, Stockholm +87%
US +19%, New York City +408%
Italy +55%, Bergamo province +496%
https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-...3-955839e06441
What this probably shows is that crude death leagues by country are incredibly misleading, because so much depends on sudden high-speed exponential growth in crowded areas. It probably also suggests that there could be a lot more big outbreaks to come as things relax a bit.
Prophylactic use.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
That makes it dumber, not smarter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ar81
Trump right now: https://tenor.com/s1MA.gif
Looks more like Boris.
Another mask shooting.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ave-police-say
I wonder if the media will do a demographic analysis of crimes of this nature like they did for school shootings.
Swedish authorities must be proud about beating the world in the per capita number of covid-19 deaths.
I'm a bit confused. Most of the time you applaud it when people use their guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewkowski
Because a lot of British people, especially Tories, have this almost subconscious belief that Britain is, in some nebulous way, intrinsically more advanced than other countries, especially non-Anglophone countries. So, yeah, of course they're going to default to "we didn't fuck up in a way which lead to 10s of thousands of preventable deaths, the just that the foreigners can't count properly, with their un deux trios and their einz zwei drei viers", especially when some of the Toriest Tories ever to Tory are currently running things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flixy
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Accurate
Idle thought: if the virus has a resurgence towards the end of the year, I bet we can count on Trump being an enthusiastic supporter of quarantine orders around November.
And y'all brushed me off when I said he was going to find a way to fuck the election
Loki is right -- since data collection varies so widely, the best metric will be all-cause/excessive deaths. Even our CDC has been conflating diagnostic tests with antibody tests...and states have different criteria for reporting deaths, and under-reporting deaths at home.
Can't recall where I saw the 5 year graphs showing similar death spikes in *all* countries, but it's not a coincidence that it started when covid-19 began circulating.
Just done the home test self swab. Not a comfortable experience.
How will your results be incorporated into national data? What kind of test did you use? Was it testing for remnants of the virus, or anti-bodies?
And what is the error rate?
I applaud when people use their guns to kill criminals. Keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
No shirt, no shoes, no mask -- shoot to kill! :picard:
It was a test to see if we currently have the virus. No symptoms for either of us but we have very good reason to need the test, I'd rather not write why on a public forum though so happy to discuss via PM if anyone wants more details.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGT
So our results will be incorporated in the daily testing totals, fingers crossed not in the positive column.
The test involved getting a swab and rubbing it against my tonsils five times (my wife has no tonsils so back of her throat), then into each nostril until there was resistance and rotating it five times each time again.
Lol:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...ted-officials/
Well I guess that's one way to win. Imagine they're not alone in this though.
It doesn't take a maths whiz or media genius to figure out people are being tested twice.
Hiding in plain site.
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There's a difference between one person being tested twice and one person being tested with two tests at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
Why? When there's a high proportion of false negatives if there's a clinical reason to test twice is that wrong to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
There are some clever people on this forum.
Does anyone know how serious Covid-19 is in asthma sufferers? I want to send my eldest back to school on 1st June but she has asthma. Not sure what to do.
Make sure she always has her inhaler on her is the advice I have heard. There's some good information here: https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/tri...asthma-do-now/Quote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop
Thanks. I did come across that. I guess I was hoping for more on what the official line is (in this and other countries) and whether anyone has made exceptions for it. I can't see anything from our government guidelines so I can only assume that their advice is to send her. I may well have missed something though.
Breaking news. UK to implement emergency quarantine measures at airports.
Just in time...
Don't trust us. Talk to your child's physician (ideally pulmonologist). They will understand your child's overall health and the severity of her asthma and can help you make an informed decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop
AFAIK doctors have written to patients they're concerned about and told them to shield, if that doesn't apply to you she should be safe I guess. But speaking to your doctor (if you're able to) might be for the best. For piece of mind if nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop