Maybe. I think he knew it was a somber and serious result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
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Maybe. I think he knew it was a somber and serious result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
He'd probably just decided to Google "what is the EU?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
The number is past the 2.5m now. I really wonder if this is not going to be used by politicians as a reason to wriggle out of Brexit.
Turns out this is a load of bollocks. I'm reading that while overall turnout for the UK was 73%, only 36% of 18-24 year olds voted. Assuming the voters had the same breakdown as surveyed then that is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flixy
Remain: 26%
Leave: 10%
Can't be arsed: 64%
So 74% of young people either wanted to Leave or can't be arsed to vote. Can't really blame the elderly for the decision then.
What about the other demographic that voted to remain?
Good question. If you can find turnout figures for them it would be interesting to see what the numbers are.
I suspect if all demographics had turned out by the same percentage and the extras voted the same way as those who did bother to vote then we would have seen a Remain win. The second half of that sentence is an unsafe assumption of course.
Of course a part of the blame lies with 'can't be arsed'. These people however may very well decide they should vote at the next elections in, if I read the signs correctly, 5 months. Is it a wise thing if the people in charge discard their opinions entirely?
Odds of these people voting at the next election are about as high as Nicola Sturgeon revealing that she is the Loch Ness Monster.
Young people don't vote. That's just a reality.
Edit: On topic of second referendum: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7104076.html :o
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I don't think there is a reaction gif yet created that can successfully convey the level of wtf generated by this referendum.
Indeed. I am a little bit upset with myself but schadenfreude is mixed in in a good dose. I have good hope europhobia will loose a lot of its appeal.
I wanted the UK to be a real participant in the EU, but the likes of RandBlade were happily being used by a cynical group of politicians so now I can't help but think that they made the stew and they can bloody well eat it themselves.
I feel for people who voted against Brexit but on the other hand think that people could have been involved in this earlier and in greater numbers. I have - sometimes too fiercely maybe - fought against europhobic hooligans and I remember not only getting little support and a lot of attacks from behind.
A good hearty stew we have made ourselves is better than the cold leftover gruel we've been dining on with you.
You know, if there's a good chance you'll be eating your words, you should choose them with more care.
Speaking of vote-counting: the Spanish counted more than half of their ballots within 2 hours of the polls closing.
Oh, I forgot to look. Looks good for PP and not so good for Catalan nationalists ? Though no workable majority I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
I'm beginning to pity you now. I thought you were trying to just wind me up but it seems you genuinely are so afraid of the big bad world and have such an insipid lack of self confidence. It must be hard sometimes just getting out of bed just knowing all those things that could go wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
Life is messy it isn't perfect. I'm ok with that. I'm ok with living my life with concepts like accountability, self belief and self respect. Taking responsibility for your actions and yourself.
It could either be a leftist coalition or a grand coalition. I think the socialists might prefer being a junior partner in the latter, as the former has the potential to destroy them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
There's a big difference between life being chaotic and intentionally bringing that chaos about.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
Randblade you made me crack up for real. I have to admire you for your talent to have such profound opinions while living in the fact-free zone.
I don't know about the procedures in other countries, but the steps the UK takes to ensure the integrity of its elections verges on the paranoid.Quote:
Speaking of vote-counting: the Spanish counted more than half of their ballots within 2 hours of the polls closing.
http://i.imgur.com/9vNV85h.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
Yes, if you want progress and change then that involves bringing about chaos. What is so scary about that? Is it your suggestion we should live in perpetual fear of ever taking a step to bring long term improvements if there may be some chaos involved in the short term?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
I'd rather an extra couple of hours watching the results come in with a bottle of wine than years of arguing over "hanging chads" etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
So what? The Vote Leave campaign said they would honour all such EU funding, which besides only amounts to a third of our net post-rebate contributions. Two thirds disappear into the ether never to be seen or heard from again. If I take £250 from you then spend £80 on buying you a gift then am I generous?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
They can't do what you say they'll do because they have to spend that money on building hospitals
Maybe Rand is promoting higher taxes? That way they can have money for all their empty promises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b08d2c56396075
Who's foreign here? Anyone foreign??
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7104191.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...land-and-wales
Sun not allowed to set on British empire, forced to move back east amidst surge of vicious racist attacks.
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Originally Posted by Aimless
Brexit has given these halfwits a voice. Legitimized their racism.
SOME of the savings would go on the NHS. Not all of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
All pledged EU spending would be matched until 2020 too.