Panic, Purge or Patience?

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Originally Posted by CitizenCain

Know of anything closer (in English)? That's the best I could come up with. :(

And, actually, I do think it's kinda close, but maybe the British accent fucks up the way European English people say "cook," or something like that. It's certainly not too far off if you have a 'Merikan accent.

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To be honest, I was thinking of the word in a different context where it'd sound different than in your link, or am mixing it with another word possibly. This way is fairly close yeah :) Maybe a bit like the 'ke' in basketball?

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Originally Posted by Flixy

Maybe a bit like the 'ke' in basketball?

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Yeah, that's probably even better, because people hold the soft 'e' sound in "cook" a little longer than you do in the French "que."

Are you thinking Cook is pronounced like Kook, as in Coo? No, Cook is said like Look....probably a schwa in there or something. But then, you Canadians say anything with -ouse really funny. Say Mouse in the House and I can tell if you're Canadian or even northern midwest or Minnesotan. Just like the Chicago Region says Park the Car in the Yard in a distinct way, not like Massachusetts.

The one thing (in politics) that all of this has in common is PEOPLE ARE FED UP. We can't rewind history, but if the Tea Party People had found a faster broader voice, and an articulate candidate, that would have given Obama a real contest.

Change means different things to different people, but look at the landscape now....incumbents are in big trouble, no matter their party affiliation. FFS Bob Bennett got ousted!

Je ne sais quais. Did I spell that right? The sais is like 'ke' in basketball...?

quais? What are you trying to say? And no, sais isn't pronounced like that. More like que? in spanish, except with an s.

Quais said like qwua. I probably spelled it wrong. Quas, or qua maybe.

That was one of the first things I learned in French class, how to say "I don't know". :p

phonetically--szhe nuh say qwua My French sucks

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Originally Posted by GGT

You're asking ME? :haha: When I took (American) French, que was pronounced kay. But they have hyphenated things like que plus est = q'est? The Spanish qui is pronounced key.

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And when I took French, que was NOT pronounced "kay." Sounds like you had someone teaching one of those screwy provençal accents.

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A thousand point fall in twenty minutes is a clear indication that something isn't working as intended, yes.

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Nothing is or ever will be absolutely perfect. Did it get corrected, quickly? Then it is working as intended.

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Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy

And when I took French, que was NOT pronounced "kay." Sounds like you had someone teaching one of those screwy provençal accents.

Nothing is or ever will be absolutely perfect. Did it get corrected, quickly? Then it is working as intended.

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Most likely. I'm not going to Rosetta Stone, but this whole thing started with Que Sera, Sera. Spanish? I defer to Doris. :D

Also, "getting it corrected quickly" might suffice for google or facebook, but not NYSE or NASDAQ (or the other electronic exchanges that halted trading). If they're going to be connected in nanoseconds using other people's money, trading as if time IS money, then they need to be coordinated.

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Originally Posted by GGT

Are you thinking Cook is pronounced like Kook, as in Coo?

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No. And for fuck's sake, go listen to the pronunciation of "que" in the link I provided.

See, this is why I usually just don't fucking bother provide citations. It doesn't matter. Y'all just ignore them and go on believing whatever crazy thing you believed in the first place.

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Originally Posted by GGT

But then, you Canadians say anything with -ouse really funny. Say Mouse in the House and I can tell if you're Canadian or even northern midwest or Minnesotan.

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It's "out and about in a boot," because the Canadian accent says "oo" and "ow"/"ou" sounds strangle, not "ouse" sounds. :bulb:

Holly fuck, are you ever misinformed on... everything.

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Originally Posted by GGT

Je ne sais quais.

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"Je ne sais quoi." (I don't know [what].)

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Originally Posted by GGT

The sais is like 'ke' in basketball...?

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What the fucking fuck?!?!?

"Que" and "sais" are actually different words, and thus, are pronounced differently too. :bulb:

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Originally Posted by GGT

Quais said like qwua. I probably spelled it wrong. Quas, or qua maybe.

That was one of the first things I learned in French class, how to say "I don't know". :p

phonetically--szhe nuh say qwua My French sucks

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Should be je ne sais pas - I don't know. Quoi? is what you say when you don't understand someone ;)

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Originally Posted by GGT

Most likely. I'm not going to Rosetta Stone, but this whole thing started with Que Sera, Sera. Spanish? I defer to Doris. :D

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Why stop there? If you want to know how the English pronounce things, listen to Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.

And there is no more authentic sounding southern accent than Vivien Lee in Gone With the Wind.

Wiki:
There has been some confusion about the identity of the language in the song's title and lyrics. The words are Spanish, but the phrase is ungrammatical in Spanish. Composer Jay Livingston had seen the 1954 film The Barefoot Contessa, in which an Italian family has the motto "Che sarÃ* sarÃ*" carved in stone at their ancestral castle. He immediately wrote it down as a possible song title, and he and lyricist Ray Evans later respelled it in Spanish "because there are so many Spanish-speaking people in the world." Both Evans and Livingston probably had learned some Spanish during their early experience as musicians on cruise ships to the Caribbean and South America.

It's a shit song, though.

Thanks, I knew I'd spelled it wrong. Quoi? Too lazy to look it up. Sue me or forgive me.

Out and about in the house, or a root in the boot....I live around people who say "youse", but that doesn't rhyme with house. Yowza.

And how would you pronounce the island Phuket?

I don't think je ne sais quoi is correct french.

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Originally Posted by Flixy

Should be je ne sais pas - I don't know. Quoi? is what you say when you don't understand someone ;)

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PAS! so what the fuck is quoi, Cain? I haven't spoken French in...over 20 years. My kid took one semester of intro, and listening to the radio while driving through Canada doesn't count.

Is it time for some painful Celine Dion songs yet? :haha:

Lolli! The rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain

I wish we had more old movie fans here. sigh

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Originally Posted by Flixy

I don't think je ne sais quoi is correct french.

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Probably not on the continent, but it is over here. It's even kind of an idiosyncratic phrase (in NA English) for saying that someone/something has a certain undefinable quality (or allure) about them/it.

EDIT: Here we go, from the Wiktionary.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/je_ne_sais_quoi

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Etymology

From French je ne sais quoi, literally ‘I don't know what’.
Pronunciation

* IPA: /ˌʒə nə sɛ ˈkwɑ:/

Noun

Singular
je ne sais quoi


Plural
uncountable

je ne sais quoi (uncountable)

1. An intangible quality that makes something distinctive or attractive.

She has a certain je ne sais quoi about her.

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Originally Posted by GGT

PAS! so what the fuck is quoi, Cain?

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The French word for "what."

I need a refresher course. :p French is such a pretty language. Even the French accent in English is romantic

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Originally Posted by CitizenCain

Probably not on the continent, but it is over here. It's even kind of an idiosyncratic phrase (in NA English) for saying that someone/something has a certain undefinable quality (or allure) about them/it.

EDIT: Here we go, from the Wiktionary.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/je_ne_sais_quoi

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Heh :) I assumed you meant with over here Canadians, and the Canadian I asked said it wasn't French either - but it's english apparently ;) That last quote looks nice though, I should remember that phrase.

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Originally Posted by Flixy

Heh :) I assumed you meant with over here Canadians, and the Canadian I asked said it wasn't French either - but it's english apparently ;)

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Or Quebecois. Or both?
<shrug>

Apparently there's a big difference between French and Quebecois, and French folks are uncharacteristically snooty about it. :o

I'd complain, but frankly, I enjoy French-Canadians getting bashed, so I'm willing to overlook the fact that French people suck in this particular instance. :D

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Originally Posted by CitizenCain

Or Quebecois. Or both?
<shrug>

Apparently there's a big difference between French and Quebecois, and French folks are uncharacteristically snooty about it. :o

I'd complain, but frankly, I enjoy French-Canadians getting bashed, so I'm willing to overlook the fact that French people suck in this particular instance. :D

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Hehe :) Asked a Montreal girl actually - but she speaks english as a first language so it's okay :) Not like any actual French people speak like what you learn in high school, but yeah, quebecois is pretty much raped French.

Okay! This one's for the math people. Value At Risk done differently might reduce panics. Or just misc. FYI. :noob:

http://www.breakingviews.com/2010/05...spx?sg=nytimes

This is what you do:

#1. Buy as much house as you can afford in a good, stable neighborhood. Take good care of your property, make regular upgrades to bathrooms and kitchen. Pay extra on your mortgage every month or whenever you can. Mark the check "for principle only." When you go to sell, it will be worth every bit you put in and then some.

#2. Put as much money in your 401k as you can from every pay check. Make it automatic so you will stop thinking about it. Put your money into aggressive investments early on and transition to more secure investments as you get older. Ignore the ups and downs of the market, just keep on depositing your money. When you retire, you'll have a zillion dollars.

#3. If you can max out your 401k contributions and you have extra disposable income, put money into an IRA account and/or an after tax account. Follow the same regimen as above.

#4. Live happily ever after.

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420 smoke weed 'erryday

Kiss your children and go shopping.

Masturbate enthusiastically and frequently.

Go have an orgy with random strangers.

Daily.

#1. This list deserves to be a thread in and of itself and it deserves to be properly completed.

#2. This isn't what I meant.

a. I assume y'all know what I actually meant

b. But I'll explain anyway for anyone who's been living in a monestary: those are the personal finance "truths" I and
everyone else in my demographic were taught over the last 20 years and they turned out to be false. And there's nothing to replace them.

I got b, I was ridiculing the situation where the washed up hippies and people who lived responsibly by b ended up closer to one another in life than the b advocates expected

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Originally Posted by EyeKhan

#1. This list deserves to be a thread in and of itself and it deserves to be properly completed.

#2. This isn't what I meant.

a. I assume y'all know what I actually meant

b. But I'll explain anyway for anyone who's been living in a monastery: those are the personal finance "truths" I and
everyone else in my demographic were taught over the last 20 years and they turned out to be false. And there's nothing to replace them.

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So make the thread, Chacha.

20 years ago I didn't care about the personal finance "truths," old man.

Also, I disagree that it ever should have been taught as the way happiNess. Sounds like a great way to be miserable until you retire. Or have your first heart attack.

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Originally Posted by Nessus

I got b, I was ridiculing the situation where the washed up hippies and people who lived responsibly by b ended up closer to one another in life than the b advocates expected

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:(

I knew what you meant by (a), choobs.