iPad. Whut of it?

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Originally Posted by EyeKhan

And the one I use is small, has a long batter life, and simply plays music, because that's what I need it to do.

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Ditto

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Cell phone, I use constantly. But do I need a cell phone like Apple's apped up gadget fest?

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No, agreed. But at it's core it is still a cellphone. All the rest is add-on guff. (I don't have an iPhone btw - I have Nokia's touchpad phone - not quite as gadgety but getting there ...)

Whereas an iPad is, at its core, what? That is the point I'm trying to make, or failing to understand. An iPhone is a phone. An iPod is a music player. An iMac is a PC. An iPad is ... what?

I use a blackberry which I like because it has a keyboard instead of a touch pad. I use more for email and texting than I do phone calls. That and playing scrabble. :up:

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Whereas an iPad is, at its core, what?

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A toy. And I like toys still. :)

Aye I'm surrounded by blackberrys at work - but I refuse to take one because I don't want to receive work emails out of work. :sour:

The keypad is okay though.

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A toy. And I like toys still.

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Okay. I guess. And seeing as it was bought for you ... :o

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Originally Posted by Timbuk2

Aye I'm surrounded by blackberrys at work - but I refuse to take one because I don't want to receive work emails out of work. :sour:

The keypad is okay though.

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Mine is for personal use. My employer offered functionality to get work email on our personal blackberrys if we wanted and I told them to go get fucked.

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Okay. I guess. And seeing as it was bought for you ... :o

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I would have never bought it on my own. I hate Apple.

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Originally Posted by EyeKhan

#4. The onscrean keyboard totally sucks. You can't type full hand at all, it's too sensitive, though I've gotten a lot better with that. There's no arrow keys for editing text, the select functionality is clumsy and I make errors and inadvertantly activate it all the time. Major pain, imo.

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This is the part that worries me. Been thinking about getting one for my mom in August for her 65th birthday, as I think she would use it a lot. She works from home and really just needs e-mail and Google Docs, but doesn't like being tied to her desk all the time.

But I'm worried the keyboard won't work well for actually typing e-mails and such...is it something you've been able to get used to, or is it a constant annoyance?

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my mom in August for her 65th birthday

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Jesus Christ

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

This is the part that worries me. Been thinking about getting one for my mom in August for her 65th birthday, as I think she would use it a lot. She works from home and really just needs e-mail and Google Docs, but doesn't like being tied to her desk all the time.

But I'm worried the keyboard won't work well for actually typing e-mails and such...is it something you've been able to get used to, or is it a constant annoyance?

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Well, you could always get her the keyboard docking station ;)

Seems like it defeats the purpose though, doesn't it?

Nessus- Why the shock?

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Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer

The Ipod wasn't even a new concept, Creative was in that market before Apple. In fact, Creative sued Apple because of how much of the design they "borrowed". Hell, in that case Apple admitted ripping off design ideas from Kane Kramer, who invented the damn thing back in 79.

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Execution. Like I said before, it's probably a helluva lot better than a kindle. Now, I don't really see the point of getting a kindle, and I'm certainly not one of those "gotta have the latest tech gadgets" guys. But I can see why one would be enthusiastic about an iPad, if you're one of those types.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

Seems like it defeats the purpose though, doesn't it?

Nessus- Why the shock?

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Your parents were late with you. Like, really, fucking late.
Maybe we can start making jokes about how the senileness of old age has influenced your crazed outlook on life, and stop blaming your overbearing friends.

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Originally Posted by ']['ear

Execution. Like I said before, it's probably a helluva lot better than a kindle. Now, I don't really see the point of getting a kindle, and I'm certainly not one of those "gotta have the latest tech gadgets" guys. But I can see why one would be enthusiastic about an iPad, if you're one of those types.

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You can't really compare the Kindle to an iPad. One is intended for reading, the other for applications.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

Seems like it defeats the purpose though, doesn't it?

Nessus- Why the shock?

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My mum had me when she was relatively old and she's not even 60 yet. And you and I are the same fucking age :bulb:

Well, two options: A) Here in evangelical America, my devoutly Christian mother had many many many babies, even though we're in librul New York City where people have less living space (and thus less kids) so that we can be closer to the theater, welfare and the crack cocaine. B) You don't know my age. :o

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

This is the part that worries me. Been thinking about getting one for my mom in August for her 65th birthday, as I think she would use it a lot. She works from home and really just needs e-mail and Google Docs, but doesn't like being tied to her desk all the time.

But I'm worried the keyboard won't work well for actually typing e-mails and such...is it something you've been able to get used to, or is it a constant annoyance?

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I'm getting better with it. Some of its just getting used to fuctionality in the browser I didn't know was there, like the double arrows in the upper right corner that allows this box I'm typing in to get bigger. In the iPad you can't scroll within a box so you have to make the box as big as the text you're typing because there are no arrow keys. There's also this zoom in feature so you can put the cursor right inside a word that you have to tap the thing in a certain way to activate it. With time I get better at it. Its such an unfamiliar interface, I'm not sure if its difficult to use or I'm just in a learning curve.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

Well, two options: A) Here in evangelical America, my devoutly Christian mother had many many many babies, even though we're in librul New York City where people have less living space (and thus less kids) so that we can be closer to the theater, welfare and the crack cocaine. B) You don't know my age. :o

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How many, if I may ask... ? Also, arn't you like 25 or something?

I own this alternative to the iPad :)

Looks clunky. ;)

Yeah, but since it's intended for business, it has some nice little features. Like being able to swap the battery on the fly, the battery not charging until the remaining charge has dropped below 90% and such stuff. And the pen is nice because the display is based on technology by Wacom.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

Well, two options: A) Here in evangelical America, my devoutly Christian mother had many many many babies, even though we're in librul New York City where people have less living space (and thus less kids) so that we can be closer to the theater, welfare and the crack cocaine. B) You don't know my age. :o

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:confused:

You've claimed to be '85, why would you have lied about that?

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

Well, two options: A) Here in evangelical America, my devoutly Christian mother had many many many babies, even though we're in librul New York City where people have less living space (and thus less kids) so that we can be closer to the theater, welfare and the crack cocaine. B) You don't know my age. :o

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Well, some posters here will recall that you were in high school when you first got involved with the I-war board. We have a timeline of your education which gives us an indication of your age.

Your math and Nessie's contradict. So I'm increasingly thinking of purchasing this for my mom, but I just realized that Google Docs and Spreadsheets (which she uses for her business) won't work. :( Considering some of those application-to-Google-Docs solutions...

Has anyone here who has one (okay like the one person), tried an app that syncs Google Docs to their iPad? Like Memeo Connect or something?

EDIT: Even though Memeo doesn't really allow editing...GAH.

UPDATE: So I had five drinks and little food, and decided I would surprise my mom with this tomorrow. So I went to the 24 hour Apple store on 59th and 5th at 10PM to get one. That place is a freakshow of people buying shit at 10PM. Like I almost was. Except they are flat out of the damn machines so now they lost my drunken business.

There's a 24 hour Apple store?


For the person who can't live until morning without replacing his ipod he dropped in the toilet?

Probably for people who need to be reminded that they're cool 24/7.

Yeah, it's sorta creepy. It was fracking *packed*. A lot of tourists, I guess to see the design of the place and such. It's become something of an attraction. But I don't think the people in there who had clearly been there for quite a while dicking around on the sample computers are under the illusions that they are cool.

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Originally Posted by littlelolligagged

There's a 24 hour Apple store?


For the person who can't live until morning without replacing his ipod he dropped in the toilet?

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You should check some of the photo collections of the 24 hour store. Crowd appearance completely changes from the smug hipsters to the poor and lonely; same people, just different outfits. You'll have people working on homework, surfing the web, or in the case of kat, posting insane rantings anywhere they aren't banned. You would be amazed at the number of employees there are too, graveyard shift gets time and a half.

Yeah, it was shockingly crowded. Took me a good few minutes to find an available store worker who could tell me they were sold out.

UPDATE: Mentioned that I was going to surprise my mom with this to my sister, who thought it's a great idea and offered to split the cost of the 3G version. So just ordered it. Will be curious/hopeful that she enjoys it!

Yeah, well I say the same thing about the smart phone band wagon. :bored:

oops, wow, I clicked last post and replied about the band-wagon herd mentality. Missed a whole page of posts?

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Basically, I think the iPad has some limitations and isn't especially useful. But the form factor, simplicity (and perhaps limitations) also makes it perfect for my mom. My family doesn't really give presents, but she has a big birthday coming up so I'm surprising her with one.

She'll probably love it, if you give it with a cool looking carry case and offer a tutorial. Over 20,000 apps...:eek:

She'll be able to figure it out — she runs her own business at home and basically just needs e-mail and phones during the day, but complains that she feels tied to her desk too much. And smartphones are too small. So this'll give her some mobility at least around the house, plus she will probably love the other features.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

Basically, I think the iPad has some limitations and isn't especially useful.

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You wouldn't get that idea from the way Apple markets it as the most useful and limitless device ever...

Yeah, I find it especially annoying/laughable about how reporters think the iPad is somehow going to save their industry/get them fatter paychecks. It makes them drool over it beyond reason.

That said, it's a neat and fairly functional device and I think it'll prove itself a good experience for her.

Had a brief play with one on sunday. Was round at one of my two sisters' houses for my nieces 3rd birthday. Her husband is an Apple fan-boi. He'd pre-ordered the iPad and had it in his hands 24 hours before the shops had it. :o

Nice little device - considerably smaller than I'd imagined. Browsed a couple of websites. Touchscreen nice and responsive, and the interface is lovely, like the iPhone.

There were a few apps on there which he'd downloaded for my niece which she had great fun playing - fun/edumicational type apps. He had similar ones on the iPhone though which she used to play.

Overall though, he summed it up by saying it was a device for browsing the web while sat on the loo, which seemed pretty apt. :o

Well, I have a one in 180 chance of winning an iPad now :P It does seem like a neat gadget to play with, but I'm not spending money on it.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

Has anyone here who has one (okay like the one person), tried an app that syncs Google Docs to their iPad? Like Memeo Connect or something?

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No. Mine is strictly a toy.

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Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro

You can't really compare the Kindle to an iPad. One is intended for reading, the other for applications.

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But an iPad does reading just fine. So why the hell buy a kindle?

Oh, that was my point. :bored:

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

B) You don't know my age. :o

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Um, others have made this same point, but you were in high school when I joined, and you graduated from college a couple of years ago. Most of us know your age within a year or two. Coy fail. :p

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Originally Posted by ']['ear

But an iPad does reading just fine. So why the hell buy a kindle?

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Because if you're not gadget crazed and just want an e-reader, a Kindle is a fair bit cheaper?

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Originally Posted by ']['ear

Um, others have made this same point, but you were in high school when I joined, and you graduated from college a couple of years ago. Most of us know your age within a year or two. Coy fail. :p

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Even considering that it's false, that leaves sort of a wide theoretical range. :confused:

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Originally Posted by ']['ear

But an iPad does reading just fine. So why the hell buy a kindle?

Oh, that was my point. :bored:



Um, others have made this same point, but you were in high school when I joined, and you graduated from college a couple of years ago. Most of us know your age within a year or two. Coy fail. :p

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Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy

Because if you're not gadget crazed and just want an e-reader, a Kindle is a fair bit cheaper?

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I haven't had a close look at a kindle but I'm under the impression its a different experience than an LCD screen. Its 'electronic paper' which is supposed to look a lot different. Also, because the iPad is all touch screen, its constantly smudged and re-smudged. The kindle I believe is button driven so your screen isn't a wreck all the time. Just some differences....