Hahah get fucked!
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...bings/2449370/
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Hahah get fucked!
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...bings/2449370/
It's not really better but the statement from their benevolent association is a lie. It's not a protest about the suspensions. They're pulling out because the Benevolent Association has said it's not going to help pay for legal defense in riot control cases right now, that it doesn't have the money for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Good riddance if that's their attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
Sadly, they didn't resign from the police, just whatever tag team they were part of.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
Good police officers show what they think about the few violent "bad apples" amongst them:
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Exceptional brutality, but also exceptional public support:
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This isn't strange at all in a modern democracy:
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Inside every Republican political figure, there's a crank—and a lot of creepiness.
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And I even figured out why Lewk's been posting more of late—he's been suspended for being a jackass:
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Remember when those same Texan politicians were paranoid about Obama sending troops to Texas in the Jade Helm exercises? I wonder what changed.
American cops are fucking babies:
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And that was under normal circumstances. No wonder they're beating people up now.
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Originally Posted by Loki
At this point, it may be more appropriate to talk about "a few good apples":
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Unbelievable thread. Or, rather, all too believable.
Someone living the resident fascist's wet dream of running over a black protester:
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The victim died. Afaict no arrest has been made. No info on whether there was any serious attempt at investigating the killing.
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It was then rolled into then nearby river.
I don't like this. By all means lets remove the statue; but not via vandalism. I'm uneasy about where this could lead.
King Leopold is the real prize.
The river? Come on, who the fuck puts up statues of slave traders?Quote:
I'm uneasy about where this could lead.
I mean, the British state does, obv. But we shouldn't encourage them.
The statue had no place in 2020 UK. It needed to go.
I don't think anyone could make a reasonable case for it to remain standing.
But not like that. Do it within the frickin' law, mmm'k.
This might help lewk understand why his previous line of questions was idiotic bullshit. Shared by my home city a few minutes ago. Or he could miss the point entirely, again.
Slavery was evil. The statue was (I believe) for his major charitable works which were good, not the slavery, but yeah I agree that even with the philanthropy he had no place in 21st century Britain. There's a right and wrong way for it to go, but its not really a major concern and I'm not sad to see it gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop
This is saddening,
Americans support deploying military to control violent protests
This whole thread is sad. :(
I wonder if some people in that survey mistakenly think the National Guard is "military"?
The police are criminals:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-protests.html
But the people are watching:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...iolence-videos
The council can dredge it up, put it back in where it was and then 'officially' take it down if they like.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop
They should.
[Indiana Jones]It belongs in a museum[/Indiana Jones]
Let's compromise; put up statues of all these sumbitches, and then, every year, on June 7th, we can hold a festival where said statues are pulled down, demolished with sledgehammers, and tossed into the nearest river.
I don't want statues that idolise naughty people that did naughty things.
Neither do I want them torn down by a mob.
I want petitions and lobbying. Then I want then moved to a museum, with the history and rationale for their removal clearly explained. That's the sexy way.
Violence by a mob against a statue is technically illegal but I struggle to give a shit about it.
Violence against individuals is far worse.
Violence against businesses is far worse.
One person attacked is worse than every statue in the country getting pulled down.
I agree with that. I worry however that whilst it's one statue now, it's looting, rioting and vigilantism next. But maybe I'm concerned unnecessary.
The Story Behind Bill Barr's Unmarked Federal Agents:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab
This should disturb everyone. Including those right-wing 'conservatives' who claim to care about Big Government, Federal over-reach, and The Constitution.
If not -- then they're using "Law & Order" to promote Authoritarianism. That's just as disturbing. :down:
edit see Lewk and his statement that Mattis is 100% wrong.
The statue was covered up. Which makes me wonder why it takes so long to remove a shameful tribute to a man who made his money by trading people into slavery. A practice that had been discredited for decades in Britain by the time it went up. Just like with the Confederacy revivalist statues its mere existence was an insult to the descendants of the people he deprived of their freedom.
A museum for statues of people who did horrible things erected by people who were fully aware of the horrible things their heroes did? Or, how to offend people with bronze?Quote:
Originally Posted by gogobongopop
Most big cities in the UK have a museum full of local Interesting Things. It should be in one of those.
Nobody will remember this event in a few week's time, and that's a real shame. A museum is the perfect place to remember what happened and mark the great progress.
The statue was only a 100 or so years old, it's nothing special. There's older statues in my town you've never heard of.
You better believe I'll have opinions about those as well.
Looks like the whole world is protesting against police violence -- and institutional racism -- so it's not unique to the US. :up:
What's different (and perhaps more important) is that the US has lost its moral authority in international influence. Kinda hard to tell authoritarian regimes what Democracy should look like when we're failing as role models. It just makes the US look like hypocritical bullies with tons of money, and reinforces The Ugly American stereotype of power over principle (or money over people).
Destroying ourselves from within? Everybody sing along now....there must be Fifty ways to leave your lover
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"*crrrrsh* We have, uh, apprehended a, uh, tactical bucket of gravel on a 69-12 sir *crrrk*"
"Say again?"
"Gravel, sir *chrrrrk*"
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Originally Posted by Steely Glint
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The 75 year old "fell harder than he was pushed".
Total psychopath.
If he was a provocateur, then it is *incredibly* easy to provoke the police. Sort of the whole point of these protests?
I think you are both missing the point that this is two different antifa members colluding together. There was the 75 year old provocateur, sure, but the real story is the 13.7 billion year old antifa accomplice, gravity. Gravity has been linked to millions of deaths, nearly all the attacks on the police, and even the destruction of the twin towers. Definitely a set up. We need to ACT NOW!Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
Gravity was an inside job.