I think it means your waffle is done on this side.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
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I think it means your waffle is done on this side.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
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How the hell can one know precisely what is being bombed in a situation like this?
Other than satellites and years of intelligence gathering?
Almost certainly tracking phones.
Also, you can always just not drop bombs.
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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught
I think it all depends on what we're defining as 'precisely', doesn't it? There's little doubt that Israel has achieved remarkably good tactical intelligence in Gaza; obviously still imperfect, but they have a pretty good handle on Hamas' capabilities and infrastructure through a combination of remote sensing, sigint, and humint. That being said, Hamas also has developed pretty good tradecraft (especially among their senior leadership) and has exploited asymmetric capabilities to their fullest, including extensive tunneling efforts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
It's reasonable to assume that Israel did have reasonably precise intelligence that an important Hamas underground facility/piece of infrastructure was present under those streets. It's also very believable that they didn't have its exact location or know the exact extent of the facility. If, as has been suggested, those apartment buildings collapsed not because of the bombing but rather because their foundations were undermined from the collapse of Hamas excavations, it's reasonable for Israel to have been surprised at the extent of the damage and not have anticipated it in their calculations before the strike.
I think the important question is not whether their anticipated civilian casualties were overly optimistic or not (their assumptions seem to be broadly in line with their past experience), but whether the Hamas target was important enough to warrant systematically bombing the roadway in a solid block or two of Gaza City with relatively large penetrating munitions. I don't think we will ever get an understanding of the importance of that target to Hamas.
Thank god for bombs. Imagine how crowded the world would be now if not for bombs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint