See my edit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
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See my edit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
The only reference I can find is to an amendment, in 2013, of some article of the legal code (unclear if it's in the constitution) that removed the legal justification used for previous coups.
The new article is supposed to read:
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“the duty of the Armed Forces is to protect the Turkish homeland against threats and dangers to come from abroad, to ensure the preservation and strengthening of military power in a manner that will provide deterrence, to fulfill the duties abroad with the decision of the Parliament and help maintain international peace”
Okay, Turkish Armed Forces Internal Service Law, Art. 35.
Appearantly up till 2001 the Constitution itself contained stronger wording enabling the armed forces to act, but that was curtailed by charging the Supreme Court with the powers to rule on constitutionality of laws and changes to the Constitution. Article 35 has been around for a lot longer.
It took the Turkish security council 5 hours of talks to declare 3 months of a state of emergency. Which makes me wonder why it took them so long.
Okay folks, will Turkey's agreement with the EU re. refugees hold or will it fall apart due to the demand for visa abolition?
It will fall apart, not sure for which reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
http://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/8/14...a-refugees-aid
Can't shake the feeling that this is the beginning of something horrific.
Will nothing stop Gulen's attacks against the Turkish people?
That was the first thing I thought of; but it appears that they are angry with the USA for working with Syrian kurds associated with the PKK in Turkey.
And the standard Sevres Treaty paranoia.
Now the Dutch are Nazi's apparently: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39242707
Hazir do you mind if I ask if you have any regrets about getting a home in Turkey now. Things have taken a change much for the worse since you invested there it seems, you have my sympathies :(
Erdogan and his bunch are certainly making themselves a lot of friends at the moment. That will most likely silently backfire at them.
Regrets no, worries yes. After the Gezi protest I put plans to rebuild on ice and limited having political discussions to people I trust. Half of this nation does not support the present regime.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
The hysteria is for internal consumption, but Turks will pay the price in the decline of the middle class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro
Indeed. Foreign investors usually don't like such hysterics by a government and tourists also don't like being called Nazis. They won't make huge waves about it, they'll simply go somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39416954
The fact of spying is less surprising than the scale.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/18/po...ent/index.html
Since nobody posted this yet. What I find interesting is that Erdogan apparently feels untouchable enough to do something like that in the USA without repercussions.
https://www.facebook.com/amerikanins...8768770105442/
Sorry for facebook, but it's the best quality video of the incident I've seen.
But he is untouchable, that is the whole thing. They need him just enough to let him get away with it.
And now we learned he doesn't like the word arena. Which led to the change of name of a bunch of sport stadiums.
Syria: Turkey war planes launch strikes on Afrin
This'll end in tears, mark my words
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Is Erdogan now trying to recreate the Ottoman Empire?
This is just so stupid and dangerous:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/15/p...tor/index.html
https://www.rferl.org/a/turkey-presi.../29313583.html
Incredible rally. Will Erdogan rig the election?
The question isn't whether he will, it's how blatant he's willing to do it.
A big CHP rally in İzmir says nothing about the way the elections will go.
Erdogan claiming victory. The opposition claiming the votes were rigged.
Not much surprise there then.
The elections were probably not rigged. They also were not fair.
I'm not convinced there was no rigging on the margin. A few percent wouldn't be hard to pull off and has been done recently in Istanbul.
A few percent can make all the difference here as well with the 50% threshold.
The BBC was reporting earlier that the official Turkish media and the independent counts were showing quite different figures at one stage.
The official count seemed to have gotten a lot of data before it was even reported. But the vote tallies do seem to be converging.
Ah that makes sense.
Yes. Incredible, but he won. His supporters were celebrating loudly. It was sort of smart to have elections now and it will have helped that every move of the president is covered on all the channels where the opposition leaders get little to no mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Only a matter of time before a severe economic crisis. Let's see how loyal his supporters are then.
If only every European nation was led by a dictator who would increase military expenditure rather than having Parliamentary democracies ... what could possibly go wrong there?
Istanbul mayoral election to be rerun:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...163052594.html
Looks like the voters of Istanbul aren't ready to get off the democracy bus quite yet :up:
It's still only CHP.