I would invite you to read the following thread, starting from your post here:Quote:
Originally Posted by GGT
http://theworldforgotten.com/showthr...ll=1#post74239
I would invite you to read the following thread, starting from your post here:Quote:
Originally Posted by GGT
http://theworldforgotten.com/showthr...ll=1#post74239
You're delusional. Cameron called this spot on from the start, Merkel has created a disaster and is fast running out of 'friends' to bully into fixing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
The disaster was the Dublin agreement which put the burden on the states least able to cope with it. Cameron called nothing 'on spot', Cameron merely advocated a system that kept the UK well protected behind the rest of Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...orced-10782108
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-thugs-7209563Quote:
Asylum seekers in Cardiff are being forced to wear brightly coloured wristbands in order to get food.
[...] the wristbands which, similar to those worn at music festivals, cannot be taken off and put back on again.
Well duh how are you supposed to be able to find and harrass them otherwise?? :mad: I expect more European countries to follow suit. Long live efficiency :oQuote:
Asylum seekers targeted by racist thugs after being housed behind red front doors
So, there's a company saving money by painting all their rental properties in the same colours and now it's a dark complot to mark the houses where refugees live?
Next thing we know we're being told minarets are built next to mosques to make it easier to find them for anti-islamic vandalism.
I'm trying to figure out just how much money they're saving by painting some doors red.
Painting all doors they manage the same colour. By being consistent and buying paint in bulk it is cheaper, plus it is easier to maintain and doesn't require a stockpile of multiple paints. In other words it is standard operating procedure for many companies.
RB, look, I realise that this isn't some sort of British Nazi conspiracy. It's just interesting and a little sad to see some of the unintended consequences of naïve cost-cutting. Fortunately they'll be repainting the doors, although it's obv too late. Maybe they'll get around to implementing a better system for identifying those who are eligible for getting some food too. Something sophisticated like a cheap ID-card or something.
Randblade isn't that deep. He hires people for jobs that have high attrition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
Maybe Jomast is the same and that's why one of their ungrateful employees repainted a door red after the worried asylum-seeking residents had painted it white for free :o "company policy"
...reminds me of the darkest time on our continent ~~ FaymannQuote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
What crawled up your arse and died?Quote:
Originally Posted by Being
You don't know what business I'm in or who I hire. Haven't written it here for years.
I always assumed you were in some kind of retail/sales thing. And I know you haven't hired me! But being s remark is a little weird anyway, even if he is right I don't see what that has to do with refugees.
That said, making certain groups wear specific bracelets etc, even if it is not meant in a bad way.. let's just say it makes it hard for me not to do a Godwin when you get to that point.
I assumed you were the proprietor of a pub for vampires. You're up really late, you're beyond [the] pale, you're less bloodthirsty and your job seems to require practicing arcane Excel magic. The implications are clear and obv such a job would indeed be characterised by high attrition :o
Wonder if they'll replace the wristbands with passes or photo ID. Wonder if the internet hate-mob will flip out if they do :o
They could easily replace it with a fingerprint scan at the place where they distribute the food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
People would probably be pissed off by the fact that they get the same treatment as schoolkids in the area :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...child-refugees
:(
The red doors story that started this nonsense were painted red 20 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
The red bands not so much :o
No, those started roughly 15 years ago when all-in tourist resorts became all the rage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
All the better to identify welfare tourists so that they can be properly welcomed :o
As it happens, I think that Europe can do no better than kick any 'welfare tourist back to where he came from. Forget about losing time putting bracelets on them.
Yes, I realise this, was just thinking that what may be appropriate for tourists at a resort may not be as appropriate for refugees living under threat of violence from locals
Gosh, we have certainly advanced haven't we? Now even racists appearantly need wristbands to identify their victims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
Wristbands helped people identify asylum seekers. Unless every brown person in town is an asylum seeker, bright red wristbands give additional information eg. to racists who want to target asylum seekers that a given brown person is an asylum seeker. Because the company in charge of feeding them require them to wear wristbands I presume it's not always easy to identify asylum seekers using the "is brown?" heuristic because of it were then the company wouldn't need to spend their money on expensive wristbands.
A lot of people seem gay but it sure is easier for homophobes to identify gay people if you make gay people wear gay pink wristbands.
Did the attackers in Stockholm ask for ID before they beat someone up? Just asking...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
That is irrelevant unless you have credible information that indicates that the asylum seekers in the town we were discussing right up until your last post were hassled at the same rate and intensity as other brown people in the area who are not asylum seekers.
The mob in sthlm was ostensibly formed to "deal with" the large number of North African criminal street youths that have come to sthlm from other European countries. The action was illegal and disgusting but the particulars do not seem to be the same.
It's possible that the mob would not have been as indiscriminate as it allegedly/apparently was of wed forced said youths to wear highly visible bright red wristbands so maybe that's an argument in favor of such identifiers :o
You have such figures or are you merely thinking these people are victimized for their bracelets rather than for their skin color. Is there a law that they should never let the sleeves of their winter coats cover their bracelets?
If what you're implying is true then surely brownies in that town are being hassled in that town at the same rate as asylum-seeking brownies, yes?
http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/pr...ty-for-turkey/
3bn EUR fund to help Turkey keep refugees out of the rest of Europe. What will be the good consequences for each involved party/group? What will be the negative consequences?
Turkey will have more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
The EU will have less money.Quote:
What will be the negative consequences?
There will be more corruption in Turkey.
Corruption is what I was thinking about but also wondering what consequences, if any, this may have for Turkey's military activities and for the political climate
Simply as a function of having more money and presumably a lax oversight by the organisation giving the money. Turkey already has domestic corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
Military none, Erdogan will feel freeer to oppress his critics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aimless
So....what does a Europe United really mean? :confused:
Obviously, a common currency isn't enough to bridge the gaps, and consolidating sovereign debt isn't politically viable unless ALL members are on board. But it did sound nice that travel between national borders might be like moving between US states -- where folks don't have to carry their "papers" to prove their citizenship. Oh wait
Today is going to be interesting. As far, it seems that the closing of the border to Greece will be ratified today.
What's important is that the council has to actually make political decisions rather than technical tinkering. I must say the Turkish offer goes much further than I would have expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by earthJoker
The funny thing is, that Merkel needs a decision as she wants a European solution. Otherwise it's getting harder and harder for her to argue against national solutions. On the other hand, the European solution that she can get is not the one she wants. A nice dilemma. :noob:
Anne Frank's father petitioned the US several times for a refugee visa, but was denied because policy (at that time) limited how many Jews, and from where, would be accepted into our country. The US also turned away entire ships of refugees in the WWII era for the same reasons -- and our "policies" sent them right back to the places they were trying to escape from in the first place, or forced them to hide in other countries that weren't so friendly to refugees, either.
Why do we keep repeating the same mistakes of the past, when we have so much history to learn from? :(