A short term recession is a possibility. It always was either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
How many pieces of silver do you think it is worth to get rid of democracy? Is 30 pieces of silver enough for you?
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A short term recession is a possibility. It always was either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
How many pieces of silver do you think it is worth to get rid of democracy? Is 30 pieces of silver enough for you?
Grow up :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
I can highlight tons of racism existing before the vote as well as racism the HuffPo can highlight as existing after the vote. Nothing has changed in that regard. So yes I am on the right side of history. In just the post above yours Hazir is pointing out people have been treated "ghastly for years" yet now we are supposed to believe it's all due to a referendum on do we want sovereignty or not? I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by Steely Glint
We need a popcorn smiley :DQuote:
Meanwhile, Corbynites and the Labour mainstream are pretty much in a state of open war.
I just joined Labour to vote in the anticipated leadership election. It's unhealthy for a country to have no effective opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
It's a crazed situation where a party leader can lose a vote of no confidence by 172 votes to 40 and then stay on regardless. First post-Brexit PMQs is going to be dominated by Corbyn and his backbenches more than Europe.
I can't understand why he's so determined to hold on to a job he has no interest in actually doing.
Well, he's convinced that he's representing the people whereas these other wankers got into parliament by.. oh.. well..Quote:
Originally Posted by Steely Glint
Love your logic here. The base of comparison is not what the economy was likely to look like in the near future; it's what the worst case scenario would have been. Fair base of comparison there.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
Weren't you the one whining about democracy and respecting the will of voters? Corbyn has the support of 60% of Labour members.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandBlade
The others should ahve the support of about 80% of Labour voters. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Loki
This is a disaster.
I'm interested in the long term. If something is the right thing to do should it be avoided if short term discomfort is more likely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Absolutely hence my need for a popcorn smiley. It's hilarious isn't it. Sometimes schadenfreude can be great fun. Who could have dreamt that after an EU referendum campaign it would be the Labour Party that is most irreconcilably divided. LOL.Quote:
Weren't you the one whining about democracy and respecting the will of voters? Corbyn has the support of 60% of Labour members.
He's decided he wants the job too now.
'Genuine footage' from Leave HQ, although this treatment would be more suitable for England's favourite mono-bollocked demagogue.
And now it's all turning People's front of Judea. :D
“An Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman walk into a bar … The Englishman wanted to go, so they all had to leave.” :)
On a German website I read an apt explanation of the British relationship with the EU: it's like when you don't like the menu in a restaurant, you set the place on fire then go outside to commit suicide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Augstein is a crazy socialist, but this sentence was funny for once.
Meanwhile German papers are openly calling Junker to step back. Comments comparing him to Sepp Blatter :haha:
I would find it unacceptable if Juncker would be forced out of office by national politicians. That would be an incredible step back for democracy in the EU. You don't have to like Juncker, or even the Spitzenkandidat idea, but fact of the matter is that he's the first President of the Commission who can claim an actual democratic mandate.Quote:
Originally Posted by earthJoker
German papers, not German politicians.
An Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman walk into a bar, to watch Wales play in the Euro 2016 Quarter finals. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Loki
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36703570 In a finding that will surprise no one, the main predictor of voting Leave wasn't income or class, but rather education (or lack thereof). And race, but that goes without saying.
Leave begins to deliver on its promise of increasing support for science by doing something so dumb that political scientists and sociologists will be able to make their living off of studying it for a couple of decades :downcast:
UK is terrible at quantitative political science. So no, this will mainly benefit American ones. :o
As I understand it the reason that swiss research is well funded by the EU is because currently they use the fund for non-EU research partnered with EU universities - now that the UK will enter that fund as well, you can expect that to become more competitive.
The Swiss also got a lot of really good EU and US scientists due to Schengen. Now that they're out, they're losing their top scientists rapidly.
That's all right, they're embracing the world instead of just focusing on one small corner of it :downcast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Hmmm. Wonder if that will mostly be to Switzerland's detriment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flixy
As for the BBC's findings, they really are interesting albeit unsurprising. Wondering if they'll find the same trends in other multicultural cities like Leicester.
We'd know that if Britain wasn't terrible at quantitative political science. :p Virtually no individual-level polling data in the UK.
Might be true, but than again, we spend billions in science directly (without the detour over the EU).Quote:
Originally Posted by Flixy
Why would we lose US scientists because of Schengen? Schengen has nothing to do with science. And the US isn't part of Schengen, neither is the UK. What you mean is Horizon 2020, but than again, why should we lose scientists over that. It's not like the ETH or CERN is suddenly moving away from Switzerland. Good scientists will still be able to come over here to make their PhD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Because you're getting some of the best US Ph.D. graduates, people who like travelling around Europe and who like being around the top minds in Europe. From what I read, retaining those people has already become more difficult.
You can still travel around freely in Europe from here. I just made holidays in Italy and forgot my ID. BTW you could also travel around Europe before Schengen.
I want to see those numbers. So far the ratings for our Universities went up every year. You shouldn't underestimate the importance of quality of live. Top minds usually like to live in clean, stable, and secure places.
Also, so far Switzerland hasn't been fully kicked out of Horizon 2020.
If the EU kicks Switzerland and UK out of the network, I assume that it will be harder for us to get top minds, not because they don't want to come to Switzerland any more, but because they don't want to come to Europe at all.
You know that sounds a bit silly don't you? People won't be coming to Europe if Switzerland is out? I can imagine a whole slew of reasons why Europe is less attractive than some other places people could go, but kicking out Switzerland probably wouldn't make much of a difference. People like access to places like London, Paris, Madrid, Barcelona etc. The first person who has Zurich or Geneva at the top of their list of places to be I still have to come accross. And If there are such people there's always Bavaria or Annecy.
Also, the EU doesn't kick out anybody, it's Switzerland that created two incompatible obligations.
P.S. traveling without your ID to Italy isn't without risk; you could get fined for that.
Are you able to read? I said Switzerland AND the UK. Munich has a good university but it can't reach the ETH.
I didn't forgot my ID on purpose!
Oh yeah, you'll still be well off. I meant it more to say that just because Switzerland still gets a lot of EU research funding that doesn't mean UK can keep theirs, because it's from different funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by earthJoker
I am curious how Switzerland will affect my company, because we're partly based in Zürich.
You expect this to already be reflected in rankings, which are based heavily on long-term reputations? You won't see an effect there for a decade. The most immediate impact is in retention figures and the quality of new hires.Quote:
Originally Posted by earthJoker
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/future-i...cerns/42132304
Since the British people voted to exit the EU, I doubt my reading skills were the problem with your post. There is no question of kicking anybody out, there is a question of them being able to negotiate terms to re-join EU programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by earthJoker
The SNF already guaranteed to take over any founding that gets reduced or canceled by the EU. The founding isn't the problem, cooperation is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flixy
The article doesn't say that we cannot attract top scientist anymore. It clearly says the problem are the coordinated EU science projects. Not that I like that, but it isn't the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Let's agree on "will not let the UK and Switzerland participate in Horizon and Erasmus anymore", is that OK with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazir
Business owner of an export-based company reports to the BBC about a new wave of inquiries following the Brexit vote and fall in the pound: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36676558
It's almost as if a falling currency could boost exporters, helping spur economic growth and improving a current account deficit.
It's almost as if there's a world to export to outside of our continent.
Who could have predicted that?
Love your predictable response. You ignore aggregate data and focus on a single cherry-picked case. You're becoming a parody of yourself.