Political Compass

Yeah, don't want to hear your bitching and moaning just do it so we can get a new baseline.


http://www.politicalcompass.org/test





The Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

I will take it tomorrow...but I will bitch now by saying that I don't believe your libertarian rank is so high. :o

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

I will take it tomorrow...but I will bitch now by saying that I don't believe your libertarian rank is so high. :o

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It was higher last time :?

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums...d.php?t=675340

here is mine:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.56

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

What can I say, I'm from Europe. Anyway some questions are really strange like this

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When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things.

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Well, I guess I'm just crazy.

Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.03

Edit: Oh good, there's someone else out here with me ;)

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Originally Posted by GGT

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31

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I'm on the borderline. Wait, isn't that some sort of personality disorder? :|

Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.15

Here's mine:

Economic Left/Right: -2.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.64

-4, -4 exactly the last time I did this.

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Originally Posted by Weber

Here's mine:

Economic Left/Right: -2.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.64

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How can that be right? Didn't it just say to you: you are Jesus?

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Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust

-4, -4 exactly the last time I did this.

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Those were not the results of your last test. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Being

Those were not the results of your last test. :lol:

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Yes they were :)

Maybe not the last one on Atari-CC though.

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Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust

Yes they were :)

Maybe not the last one on Atari-CC though.

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:coffee: We'll wait for the new results.

Economic Left/Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59
http://www.politicalcompass.org/face...2.50&soc=-7.59

Little bit less capitalistic. Little bit more libertarian.

Economic Left/Right: 2.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.90

I think I'm the same as last time, or very near to.

Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.62

Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

I found Phoxe's motto - When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things.

Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

I think I've moved to the right... No, wait, that's funny.

So whos going to make us a nice graph like last time?

One for the new place - to hang on the wall.

And to show fundies who claim this forum is run by liberal black gay jews

Khen made the best one but we didn't get one last time. And he hasn't been active here yet. :(

Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.15

I still maintain this questionnaire is rubbish because it draws a lot of conclusions from very open-ended questions. The twat who programmed it must've assumed a whole lot of my meanings when I chose this and that which may or may not accurately reflect my reasoning behind each choice.

I think this is the first time I took the test that I made it to the positives in the authoritarian scale, too :heart:

I'm quite fickle, if I had money I'd probably be more conservative.
Social issues, I'm liberal.

I'm quite far left/libertarian, same as usual.

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Originally Posted by Gawyn

How can that be right? Didn't it just say to you: you are Jesus?

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I know shocking right? Now some of you are probably even more confused by me. :bulb:

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.26


I got a little more libertarian than I used to be, it seems.

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Originally Posted by Being

Khen made the best one but we didn't get one last time. And he hasn't been active here yet. :(

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Sorry :(

"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system."
I don't see how anyone that understands politics could disagree with this statement...a little help?

Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28
More extreme than I remember in the past, but still the same ratio.

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Originally Posted by NGS

"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system."
I don't see how anyone that understands politics could disagree with this statement...a little help?

Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28
More extreme than I remember in the past, but still the same ratio.

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Because the delay of progress can be seen as a good thing (e.g. not rushing through legislation).

Well, Khen, will you make another, please?

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Originally Posted by Flixy

Because the delay of progress can be seen as a good thing (e.g. not rushing through legislation).

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But if progress is really what it means--an improvement--then why delay it? Progress should come swiftly, and heck, if there's no official way to dispute it without getting your head chopped off, there's no need to worry about dissent.

I think this has to do with what side of the argument you're on, too. An advocate of democracy would make an argument similar to yours because they believe in the principles of the system (ie the people decide through their representation what's best for them), while a Phoxe...erm, fascist would say the trepidation in passing legislature is a sign of weakness, etc.

I think I was closer to the origin point last time I did this.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/face...4.38&soc=-5.69

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Originally Posted by NGS

"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system."
I don't see how anyone that understands politics could disagree with this statement...a little help?

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We had a pretty good discussion of this on the old CC last time we did this. IIRC i asked the same question and RB and i debated it. If that helps you search it up.



One thats always caught me out is "charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged". I dont know. Surely this is a factual question? Can anyone enlighten me?

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

We had a pretty good discussion of this on the old CC last time we did this. IIRC i asked the same question and RB and i debated it. If that helps you search it up.

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I'll give it a go, thanks for the tip.

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One thats always caught me out is "charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged". I dont know. Surely this is a factual question? Can anyone enlighten me?

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Aye, that's riddled with subjectivity. Context-sensitive, as well (at least, more so than all the other questions).

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

We had a pretty good discussion of this on the old CC last time we did this. IIRC i asked the same question and RB and i debated it. If that helps you search it up.

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IIRC wasn't the whole counter-argument centered around the word "advantage", claiming that sometimes it's better to be slower?

I never bought that logic, though I can't remember if I participated in that discussion. It's like saying you can't claim a car has a speed advantage over a horse because sometimes you won't like where you're driving to. The problem with one party systems is not in how fast they can get things done, it's in what they get done. Their speed of action is an advantage that often isn't used towards good ends.

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Originally Posted by NGS

"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system."
I don't see how anyone that understands politics could disagree with this statement...a little help?

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Meh, slight slowing down is good, it prevents going-with-the-flow of public outcry and media attention. see also, from the thread about R ratings in Australia:

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Originally Posted by termite

[...] They are however passing similar legislation in other states. As the article mentioned, NSW passed their legislation after a public brawl at Sydney airport which resulted in a Comancheros club member being killed. In the hysteria around the incident, people accepted the legislation. When the local sports club is dubbed a "criminal organisation" because 6 or more of its members are criminals then the average Joe might just pull their heads out of their arse and say WTF? But it will be too late. When society runs out of criminals it makes new laws to make new criminals...in this case under the guise of getting the allegedly untouchable criminals.

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Things like that.

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

One that's always caught me out is "charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged". I don't know. Surely this is a factual question? Can anyone enlighten me?

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Well, USA has more focus on voluntary donations, e.g. charity, European countries usually more through taxes and the state, e.g. social security. I prefer social security, afraid charities will only help their own (e.g. Christian charities help Christian people and needs but not atheist or Muslim ones).

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Originally Posted by Wraith

IIRC wasn't the whole counter-argument centered around the word "advantage", claiming that sometimes it's better to be slower?

I never bought that logic, though I can't remember if I participated in that discussion. It's like saying you can't claim a car has a speed advantage over a horse because sometimes you won't like where you're driving to. The problem with one party systems is not in how fast they can get things done, it's in what they get done. Their speed of action is an advantage that often isn't used towards good ends.

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This is a much more eloquent articulation of what I was thinking. And even if you don't like where you're driving, well then, your speed allows you the time to turn around and get out of Dodge.


Also, the A+ari search feature is so beyond inefficient it's likely I'll never find the argument without knowing significantly more information...which is fine by me.

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Originally Posted by Flixy

Meh, slight slowing down is good, it prevents going-with-the-flow of public outcry and media attention. see also, from the thread about R ratings in Australia:

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Yet it seems to me a one-party system wouldn't be concerned with public outcry or the media.

EDIT: this letting-you-know-about-a-post-made-while-you-were-posting thing is pretty frackin' sweet! :up:

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Originally Posted by NGS

Yet it seems to me a one-party system wouldn't be concerned with public outcry or the media.

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Depends, they still need popular support to stop people from rising up I suppose. In fact, with a multi party system people will be less busy with rising up since they can simply wait for the next election and elect THEIR favourites. One party system has no alternative!

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EDIT: this letting-you-know-about-a-post-made-while-you-were-posting thing is pretty frackin' sweet! :up:

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It really is! I hope that stays on vBulletin.

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Originally Posted by Flixy

Well, USA has more focus on voluntary donations, e.g. charity, European countries usually more through taxes and the state, e.g. social security. I prefer social security, afraid charities will only help their own (e.g. Christian charities help Christian people and needs but not atheist or Muslim ones).

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I've heard it expressed as "Your ability to survive should not be dependent on your ability to make people like you.".

In that fashion a state support system makes sense as it's supposed be unbiased and not care who you are (ignoring all the measures put in place to make sure that someone somewhere isn't getting something they don't deserve)
On the other hand, if your charity has strings attatched is it really charity?

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Originally Posted by Flixy

Depends, they still need popular support to stop people from rising up I suppose. In fact, with a multi party system people will be less busy with rising up since they can simply wait for the next election and elect THEIR favourites. One party system has no alternative!

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I think what you're describing depends on how liberal (Locke) the people are. If we have a society full of sycophant Timmys there won't be much of a problem for the government. Actually, I think this mirrors what happened in the CC pretty well; those with the courage and righteousness stood against the new regime and left, while those who didn't know any better have seemed to conform. And there's even a mini-revolution (with the avatars) which really hasn't done anything.

Alright alright...

Economic Left/Right: 3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21

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Maybe this will convince Tear that I haven't stopped thinking. :o