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YouGov polling gives remain as the most common first preference in 600 constituencies.
I think this gives the better picture of where the country's at.
Also I am sad that this is what we have been reduced to, as a nation:
http://static2.uk.businessinsider.co...or-no-deal.jpg
Who needs experts?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...try-boss-says/
That is hardly an explanation of why the ports wouldn't be in trouble. Just 'can do' attitude isn't going to speed up border controls for an indefinete time. ESPECIALLY not because this is a two sided operation which used to run smooth but in case of a no deal Brexit would be cut in two.
I'd say the gentleman is guilty of that old British fallacy; namely that by wishing something ardently enough foreigners are going to accomodate their dreams.
If the French would stop trying to keep immigrants off crossing ferries, Dover would come to a screeching halt.
The French bring things to a screeching halt all the frigging time. Look at Paris at the moment, the gilets jaunes are having more of a real-world negative impact on the running of a nation than Brexit ever will.
You will be the ones bringing things to a halt in case of illegal immigrants.
The man also doesn't seem to be aware that British Lorries will actually need permits to haul cargo in the EU, and that there are preciously few permits availabe. Without a permit hundreds of lorries will be stuck in Dover, waiting for the right paperwork, which may or may not come. But of course, pluckiness is going to solve it all.
Yeah, yeah, heard it all before.
Oh, but you WILL get it all over the country. It's virtualy a given; either you are getting the disruption of a chaotic Brexit, anger about BRINO or anger about No Brexit at all. All three are reasons for 'people to stop trusting' politics.
And what's the distinction in your mind between burning cars and their impact?
In other news we can unilaterally cancel the whole thing. Which would be better than May's ludicrous "deal". That dies tomorrow though.
While in Aimless's twisted imagination burning cars etc apparently has no impact ... and it is a "gross albeit hilarious exaggeration" to suggest they do have an impact ... back in the real world I inhabit the French Finance Minister has called what is going on a "catastrophe".
Back in Aimless's parallel universe it is just a mere jape.
You realize that "catastrophes" can have different sizes?
Yours will be ... bigger.
Can't you Brits get a functioning government already ?
It seems not. This is beyond a fucking joke. It is embarrassing.
This deal is a disgrace. It is hated by almost everyone except what is left of the payroll vote. The vote tomorrow looked set to be the biggest defeat in a whipped vote (ie barring abstentions) since WWII. So she has put it off.
What is the point? She's not trying to renegotiate it. The EU are maintaining it can't be. What's going to change? Stand up and be counted instead she's just running down the clock.
Something pointing towards no re-negotiation indeed is that no preparations are made to debate Brexit in the preparations for the Council meeting later this week. It's not on the agenda of the meeting of foreign ministers tomorrow in Brussels.
Why should you renegotiate when we've not rejected it yet and our PM isn't seeking either a renegotiation or an agreement to ratify it? It's absurd.
If we rejected it and a new PM went over with new demands then you can bet it would be on the agenda - either to discuss renegotiations or no deal preparations.
So, what business does May have in The Hague tomorrow?
The people running the port of Rotterdam re not so laid back. They are hiring hundreds of extra people yet foresee chaos in case of a no deal Brexit. And that is even with their most optimistic estimates of how long it would take to clear lorries/containers coming from the UK.
They also point out that delays actually reduce the value of a lot of the cargo being processed.
I think the people running the port of Rotterdam know a bit more about international shipping than most people.
There's a simple way to avoid a no deal Brexit. Drop the backstop and agree a deal.
May's deal in its current state won't happen.
A renegotiation of May's deal won't happen.
No deal won't happen.
A people's vote won't happen.
Article 50 won't be withdrawn.
So outcomes I see are:
1. Article 50 will be extended and then May will resign. Tory leadership contest in which Gove will win. He'll then define a new, very different looking deal.
2. A vote of no confidence in the government. General election called. Tories win. Gove becomes PM. He'll then define a new, very different looking deal.
After that: Scotland leaves the UK, and in the longer term the IRA rise from the ashes, more "troubles", and eventually NI leave the UK for a united Ireland. The "UK" form some trade deals that are and will be inferior to deals we already have/would have got being in the EU.
I hope I'm wrong about all the above (apart from article 50 being withdrawn; yes please).
Have you copied and pasted that from elsewhere? Or have you chosen a colour to write with. Struggling to read it on white theme.
Apart from the troubles and the inferior deals I hope all of what you wrote comes to pass. ;)
That's weird.
My words. Not sure what happened. I've now fashioned them into a lovely orange for your reading pleasure.