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    'Artificial life' breakthrough announced by scientists
    Scientists in the US have succeeded in developing the first synthetic living cell.
    The researchers constructed a bacterium's "genetic software" and transplanted it into a host cell.
    The resulting microbe then looked and behaved like the species "dictated" by the synthetic DNA.
    The advance, published in Science, has been hailed as a scientific landmark, but critics say there are dangers posed by synthetic organisms.
    The researchers hope eventually to design bacterial cells that will produce medicines and fuels and even absorb greenhouse gases.
    The team was led by Dr Craig Venter of the J Craig Venter Institute (JCVI) in Maryland and California.
    He and his colleagues had previously made a synthetic bacterial genome, and transplanted the genome of one bacterium into another.
    Now, the scientists have put both methods together, to create what they call a "synthetic cell", although only its genome is truly synthetic.
    Dr Venter likened the advance to making new software for the cell.
    The researchers copied an existing bacterial genome. They sequenced its genetic code and then used "synthesis machines" to chemically construct a copy.
    Dr Venter told BBC News: "We've now been able to take our synthetic chromosome and transplant it into a recipient cell - a different organism.
    "As soon as this new software goes into the cell, the cell reads [it] and converts into the species specified in that genetic code."
    The new bacteria replicated over a billion times, producing copies that contained and were controlled by the constructed, synthetic DNA.
    "This is the first time any synthetic DNA has been in complete control of a cell," said Dr Venter.
    'New industrial revolution' Dr Venter and his colleagues hope eventually to design and build new bacteria that will perform useful functions.

    "I think they're going to potentially create a new industrial revolution," he said.
    "If we can really get cells to do the production that we want, they could help wean us off oil and reverse some of the damage to the environment by capturing carbon dioxide."
    Dr Venter and his colleagues are already collaborating with pharmaceutical and fuel companies to design and develop chromosomes for bacteria that would produce useful fuels and new vaccines.
    But critics say that the potential benefits of synthetic organisms have been overstated.
    Dr Helen Wallace from Genewatch UK, an organisation that monitors developments in genetic technologies, told BBC News that synthetic bacteria could be dangerous.
    "If you release new organisms into the environment, you can do more harm than good," she said.
    "By releasing them into areas of pollution, [with the aim of cleaning it up], you're actually releasing a new kind of pollution.
    "We don't know how these organisms will behave in the environment."
    Dr Wallace accused Dr Venter of playing down the potential drawbacks.
    "He isn't God," she said, "he's actually being very human; trying to get money invested in his technology and avoid regulation that would restrict its use."
    But Dr Venter said that he was "driving the discussions" about the regulations governing this relatively new scientific field and about the ethical implications of the work.

    He said: "In 2003, when we made the first synthetic virus, it underwent an extensive ethical review that went all the way up to the level of the White House.
    "And there have been extensive reviews including from the National Academy of Sciences, which has done a comprehensive report on this new field.
    "We think these are important issues and we urge continued discussion that we want to take part in."
    Dr Gos Micklem, a geneticist from the University of Cambridge, said that the advance was "undoubtedly a landmark" study.
    But, he said, "there is already a wealth of simple, cheap, powerful and mature techniques for genetically engineering a range of organisms. Therefore, for the time being, this approach is unlikely to supplant existing methods for genetic engineering".
    The ethical discussions surrounding the creation of synthetic or artificial life are set to continue.
    Professor Julian Savulescu, from the Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics at the University of Oxford, said the potential of this science was "in the far future, but real and significant".
    "But the risks are also unparalleled," he continued. "We need new standards of safety evaluation for this kind of radical research and protections from military or terrorist misuse and abuse.
    "These could be used in the future to make the most powerful bioweapons imaginable. The challenge is to eat the fruit without the worm."
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    Finally, some evidence for intelligent design.

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    "He isn't god" she said. "Not yet" he replied.
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    If we're gonna be gods then we need super athletic ability and control over weather. Invent that too!!!!

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    We are. Don't worry, we are.
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    There are tons of people who are trying to engineer enzyme building blocks so that synthetic cells can be harnessed to be little factories. This is a lot more valuable than many may realize on the surface. For example, to synthesize most chemicals chemists use starting materials found in the wild, then synthesize them using multiple steps. The fewer steps, the less expensive. If cells can be engineered to make more advanced chemical intermediates, the cost (and purity) of synthesis could be dramatically decreased. Potentially huge impact for pharmaceuticals.

    And it all started with humulin.

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    When they can take spilt oil in the ocean and turn it into something useful (beyond a fuel for machines that serve humans) then I'll be all over that. I don't care if they make a food or a pharmaceutical, if they can manufacture bad carbons that turn into helpful carbons, and skip a few steps....

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    I actually don't think this is a huge breakthrough. Okay, so they were able to synthesize new chromosomes. But they weren't able to actually create a cell. I think that would be a major breakthrough.

    As they said, this is just programming. We understand some medium-level aspects of the "programming language of life". But can we build the hardware from scratch for the code to run on? Apparently not yet.

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    The good thing about cells is that they're a renewable resource
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    The good thing about cells is that they're a renewable resource
    until they aren't.
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    Well, that goes for everything in this universe
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    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Finally, some evidence for intelligent design.

    olol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Finally, some evidence for intelligent design.

    olol.
    Not yet. They just copied an existing design of God's. But soon..... muahhahaaaahahahaahaaaaaaaaa!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    I actually don't think this is a huge breakthrough. Okay, so they were able to synthesize new chromosomes. But they weren't able to actually create a cell. I think that would be a major breakthrough.

    As they said, this is just programming. We understand some medium-level aspects of the "programming language of life". But can we build the hardware from scratch for the code to run on? Apparently not yet.
    I think this was a proof of concept. Now that they can synthesize an entire bacteria genome, they can start engineering it to do things no natural genome does. Like make iPods. There is no functional need, yet, to re-create the cell's apparatus. The money is in the instruction book and as you well know, if there's no money to be made, its not worth doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    I actually don't think this is a huge breakthrough. Okay, so they were able to synthesize new chromosomes. But they weren't able to actually create a cell. I think that would be a major breakthrough.

    As they said, this is just programming. We understand some medium-level aspects of the "programming language of life". But can we build the hardware from scratch for the code to run on? Apparently not yet.
    That's the nice part about cells. They're self-replicating.

    And if you don't think that's a breakthrough then you haven't really looked at the part where it's just a wee bit difficult to create proteins/enzymes from scratch with conventional methods.
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    In a highly un-Jewish way of thinking, maybe Dread wants to see some kind of man-made abiogenesis instead of industrial applications and hurf durf money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    In a highly un-Jewish way of thinking, maybe Dread wants to see some kind of man-made abiogenesis instead of industrial applications and hurf durf money?

    Naaaaaaahh
    I'd have to read more on the article, but what Dread could be referring to is scripting a whole synthetic organism from scratch, as opposed to piecing together already known/existing code segments (this sentence uses computer programming as a reference point...I know, I feel ashamed already...).
    . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    I'd have to read more on the article, but what Dread could be referring to is scripting a whole synthetic organism from scratch, as opposed to piecing together already known/existing code segments (this sentence uses computer programming as a reference point...I know, I feel ashamed already...).
    There's not really a difference between these two, in the sense that we can't "invent" all of the necessary machinery of a cell. Everything is ripped off from nature. BUt now we could easily engineer any bug.

    But I got the impression that Dread wanted total novelty. Near impossible, and why? Why would we want to reinvent, say, DNA polymerase? Or phosphofructokinase? So yeah, not a de novo organism, but a big step forward. There are now no constraints on engineering anything into a bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    There's not really a difference between these two, in the sense that we can't "invent" all of the necessary machinery of a cell. Everything is ripped off from nature. BUt now we could easily engineer any bug.

    But I got the impression that Dread wanted total novelty. Near impossible, and why? Why would we want to reinvent, say, DNA polymerase? Or phosphofructokinase? So yeah, not a de novo organism, but a big step forward. There are now no constraints on engineering anything into a bug.
    Machine life will be completely novel.
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    True enough. You see any?

    You know, one implication of this is that they may be able to synthesize entire mammalian chromosomes. This raises the possibility of actually cloning a woolly mammoth or, gasp, a Neadertal. We have the DNA sequences, right? Granted, bigger than a bacterial chromosome, but this this is a step along that continuum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    True enough. You see any?

    You know, one implication of this is that they may be able to synthesize entire mammalian chromosomes. This raises the possibility of actually cloning a woolly mammoth or, gasp, a Neadertal. We have the DNA sequences, right? Granted, bigger than a bacterial chromosome, but this this is a step along that continuum.
    Not yet. All the futurists and scifi writers have been talking about machines to build machines, machines that repair themselves, machines that self-replicate, and AI that can design a better machine and so on. That's a trick to pull off, I'm sure, but what a huge cost save, eh? No more skilled trades guys in the plant - just a jack-o-trades omni-bot.

    Wooly Mammoth would be interesting. There's lots of glacial period mega-fauna that they could bring back - sabre-tooth cats, giant sloths, some kinda bigass bison, etc. . . . Got to find those mosquitos frozen in amber so we can bring back a t-rex.

    Did you read any of those articles about the analysis of the neanderthal genome? How they figured humans had to have interbred with them around 50k years ago? And how no humans of African origin have the neanderthal genes? Pretty cools stuff. One anthropologist I listened to on the radio basically said neanderthals were human, which, if they could interbreed, is true. He says they call them neanderthals and refer to them as though they were a separate species while talking publicly about it to minimize confusion.
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    A friend of mine is working on synthetic yeast genomes - sorta like the 'knockout' mouse models but in high throughput, much faster, and a combinatorial approach. Probably going to happen within a few years, after which we can start to map most of the interactions in eukaryotes much faster than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    Did you read any of those articles about the analysis of the neanderthal genome? How they figured humans had to have interbred with them around 50k years ago? And how no humans of African origin have the neanderthal genes? Pretty cools stuff. One anthropologist I listened to on the radio basically said neanderthals were human, which, if they could interbreed, is true. He says they call them neanderthals and refer to them as though they were a separate species while talking publicly about it to minimize confusion.
    I thought that based on skeletons they'd always considered it to be Homo sapiens, with that niggling caveat that they might have a chromosomal inversion or translocation that could screw up meiosis (think horses and donkeys).

    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    A friend of mine is working on synthetic yeast genomes - sorta like the 'knockout' mouse models but in high throughput, much faster, and a combinatorial approach. Probably going to happen within a few years, after which we can start to map most of the interactions in eukaryotes much faster than before.
    I'm not following you. Are you talking pairwise KOs throughout the genome? Or even 3-fold, 4-fold, etc? At least with pair-wise, why can't you use RNAi, now they've got it working in cerevisiae?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    I thought that based on skeletons they'd always considered it to be Homo sapiens, with that niggling caveat that they might have a chromosomal inversion or translocation that could screw up meiosis (think horses and donkeys).
    What the fuck are you talking ??
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    My point was that this development is limited by the kinds of cells we're able to grow and insert DNA into. Yes, it's cool that we can effectively code proteins. And there's lots we can do with it. But this has been theoretically possible for a while.

    The question is, can one use existing "building blocks" to create a cell of your liking and program it too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    My point was that this development is limited by the kinds of cells we're able to grow and insert DNA into. Yes, it's cool that we can effectively code proteins. And there's lots we can do with it. But this has been theoretically possible for a while.
    Not what this paper is about. We've been able to "code proteins" for decades.

    The question is, can one use existing "building blocks" to create a cell of your liking and program it too?
    Yes. Already, or at least in a sense. And actually they could do exactly that with this technology presented here. Since they're printing out the entire genome of a simple critter, it's merely a matter of inserting a gene for dibibliomuptase or whatever else you want. Or, for that matter, a suite of pathogenesis genes. The point is that you can assemble an entire genome in a computer, and then plug it into a membrane and make it a critter. Previously that would take years of hard labor and maybe not be possible. It is a technical discontinuity: not there, now it is. The potential is huge for harnessing bugs to make things. We can really engineer them any way we want. It is a big deal, but as usual the initial report is just establishing the technology, not applying it.

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    So then what is new here? Because this sounds like something I did in 11th grade biology except with a plasmid.

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    Sure. I did it last night (somebody else provides the plasmid! ) The novelty is a) you can whip up whatever genome you need in a computer, drawing from all recorded variants and making unprecedented combinations, and b) you can pop it into a naive membrane container. The former allows you to do things that would take many people years with old technologies (or be impossible), yet it could be done in, say, a week. The applications are only limited by the known genetic sequences discovered. This leaps bacterial engineering forward a ridiculous amount, and in the meantime hundreds of other scientists have been engineering enzyme modules that could be easily plugged into this. You have no idea how hard it is to, for example, take a 20 step biosynthetic program and introduce it into bugs. It's not a matter of 20 plasmids. But now one could do it like crazy.

    The latter allows the creation of a totally de novo cell, containing any DNA one wants. Now, it's a long step to getting eukaryotic DNA. But, for example, one could synthesize a set of mammoth chromosomes and put them into an enucleated elephant egg. Still not there, but the synthesis of huge stretches of DNA cannot be downplayed. Just a few years ago we would worry about synthesizing 75 bases because of the degradation of quality towards the end. The concept of whole chromosomes is boggling.

    I feel like what you want is some crazy application. That's not how science works: somebody else will do that later, and it will be important but not as important as the step that made it possible. It's sort of like criticizing PCR when it first came out, because other people could already synthesize DNA, and they didn't publish the conviction of a criminal along with the first demonstration.

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    No, I get what you're saying now. It's about the ease of creating stable nucleotide sequences and "implanting" them in a stable way .

    I'm not talking about some kind of crazy application. I was hesitating to call this "creating cells" —*you bringing up the difficulty of creating a eukaryotic cell is what I was getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    No, I get what you're saying now. It's about the ease of creating stable nucleotide sequences and "implanting" them in a stable way .

    I'm not talking about some kind of crazy application. I was hesitating to call this "creating cells" —*you bringing up the difficulty of creating a eukaryotic cell is what I was getting at.
    These are bacteria, not eukaryotes. Also, they are artificially creating the entire genome, not just some nucleotide sequences. There's a difference.
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