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    Default What the hell

    https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/dad-...864515872.html

    Caitlyn Ricci, 21, has been battling her parents over college tuition in court since August 2013. On Monday, a judge ruled that Michael Ricci and Maura McGarvey must pay $16,000 toward their daughter’s tuition for Temple University, where Caitlyn is a student. Earlier, another judge ruled the parents, who are divorced, must also foot the bill for a community college she attended before transferring to Temple. In his own words, Michael Ricci offers his take on his family’s ordeal to Yahoo Parenting exclusively.

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    The fuck? I don't understand the laws in this country sometimes. Not to conflate too many issues but once you are 18... ALL parental *legal* duty should be stopped. I also think all tax benefits should stop and this whole parenting while the kid is in their 20s in some kind of retarded.

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    As I recall, the problem in Jersey is that there's no legally set age when your parents are no longer responsible for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    As I recall, the problem in Jersey is that there's no legally set age when your parents are no longer responsible for you.
    What a shit hole state.

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    Blame Christie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/dad-...864515872.html

    Caitlyn Ricci, 21, has been battling her parents over college tuition in court since August 2013. On Monday, a judge ruled that Michael Ricci and Maura McGarvey must pay $16,000 toward their daughter’s tuition for Temple University, where Caitlyn is a student. Earlier, another judge ruled the parents, who are divorced, must also foot the bill for a community college she attended before transferring to Temple. In his own words, Michael Ricci offers his take on his family’s ordeal to Yahoo Parenting exclusively.

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    The fuck? I don't understand the laws in this country sometimes. Not to conflate too many issues but once you are 18... ALL parental *legal* duty should be stopped. I also think all tax benefits should stop and this whole parenting while the kid is in their 20s in some kind of retarded.
    Bullshit. You know damn well that states can do their own thing....because 'state rights' are used to trump any federal stuff.

    Come back when your 19 or 20 year old applies to college, and your family takes <an education> loan.

    If you don't use that for tax advantage, then what the hell.
    Last edited by GGT; 12-12-2014 at 10:16 AM.

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    What exactly is your argument here GGT? That the parents *should* be liable for their adult children's education?

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    Bump - still rather wondering GGT.

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    My answer is....complicated, and complex. I'm not convinced you can have that type of discussion.

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    So your argument is that an 18 year old is a responsible and mature adult?

    I assume they can buy alcohol then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    So your argument is that an 18 year old is a responsible and mature adult?

    I assume they can buy alcohol then?
    The drinking age is 21 here in the states but I agree it should be 18. Frankly it should probably be 17 with parental consent - if you are old enough to serve in the military you should be old enough to drink.

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    Agreed. Sort that out across the country you've got bigger issues than this one case. Either 18 is adult or not.
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    Lewk, how many 18 year olds can afford a college education, or qualify for education grants or loans without some parental involvement? If you think every 18 year old should be a legally emancipated adult....then explain how that would work in reality.

    They can't even get an apartment, or a car loan, without a credit history/credit score, work/income history, or an adult co-signer. Most 18 yr olds aren't married, so parents are usually their legal guardians until age 21 (even longer in some cases). And when parents get divorced, the custody and care of their children doesn't automatically end on the 18th birthday.

    It's uncommon to be a self-sufficient 18 yr old fresh out of HS these days. Hell, even new college grads earning above minimum-wage can't afford to buy their own health insurance! And it's not like everyone can (or should) join the military where Uncle Sam subsidizes all those things.


    Lewk, do you think it'd be a good idea to reduce those parental responsibilities (or liabilities, as you called it) when you know damn well that would move the burden to either corporate America, or tax-payer government assistance?

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    Bull, bull, and bull.

    An 18 yr old does not NEED a car loan, can get an apartment, and SHOULD have a work/income history.

    WTF would you saddle a kid with a car loan?

    It's called roomates in lower middle class apt buildings (does not have to be slums, but not freaking costal views either)

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    What a load of bollocks that an 18 year old has a legal guardian looking after them. An 18 year old can get a job and rent either off their parents or with roommates. Or continue education and rent either in residence, or with roommates or with parents. Nobody expects them to be getting married but nor do you need to get married and move in with a partner. What century do you think this is?

    And an 18 year old driving a new car has more money than sense. What on earth is wrong with a second hand car? If you need to drive and can't carpool etc

    An 18 year old doesn't need new everything and can scrimp and save and learn the value of money.
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    I will say that over here your student grants depend on parental income, so the parents who can afford it are expected to make up the difference. But I think the solution here is to make it official that your parents don't support you financially, so you can get the higher grants. Not to sue the parents.
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    FAFSA works the same up until you're 24 for most people here in the US.

    High schoolers holding jobs are also getting rarer, for a number of reasons. So working from age 12, or having any type of work history by 18, isn't as common as people are making it out to be. Hell, around here I was an outlier when I landed a job in the library while still in high school and that was a decade ago.

    On the other end of the "fuck you" stick, a good number of people graduate high school when they are still 17, so they need parental support for all types of shit when heading to college.
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    The usual approach would be to contact your college of choice and their financial aid department and make the special circumstances clear. I suspect, though, that the telling point for a successful suit forcing the parents to pay is that they were willing to pay if she attended a school more to their liking.
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