"Tax Everything"
For real... fuck off.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...tier-for-taxes
"The measure would include a per-passenger tax on the price of a commercial flight to space and a two-tiered excise tax for each launch into space. The first tier would apply to flights between 50 miles and 80 miles above Earth’s surface, while the second "significantly higher" rate would apply to flights more than 80 miles above Earth’s surface."
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
What Lewk? Will that put it out of your budget? Or will it put a dent in your Blue Origin dividends? I really don't understand your complaint here.
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
There definitely are negative externalities with emissions and risks which are not being accounted for, so some type of sales or excise tax is definitely called for.
P.S. Lewk, the founding fathers LOVED using excise taxes on luxury goods and services to raise revenue.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Yeah before we had an income tax...Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy
Sounds like you prefer to spread the cost to all workers rather than those using the service? That is mighty social of you.
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Yes, because they died before federal income tax was instated using the authority granted to Congress by the constitution. What makes you think they would've felt an income tax would automatically delegitimize other forms of taxation? And, tbc, even if they did believe it, so what? Their understanding of economics predates the modern world.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Yes. . . because they'd have had another revolution if the government had actually tried to impose an income tax back then. They HATED the idea of an income tax. Excise taxes were the tax concept they approved of.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Lewk, you're a parody of yourself. You're offended at a proposed tax that would hit only billionaires and tax them an amount they won't even notice is missing.
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Lewk, the temporarily embarrassed billionaire
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Imagine believing everyone is only interested in self interest instead of principle. I'll never be a billionaire but I would never support a billionaire tax.Lewk, the temporarily embarrassed billionaire
This actually makes you sound dumber than what we already assumed of you. That's impressive.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
This is bullshit. Do you know how many hard working amazon drivers had to pee into bottles for that man to get rich enough to go to space? And now the government wants to take that away from them?
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
You gotta remember, we need to reward the rich. It's a good thing to have a sales tax on goods like diapers but it would be a terrible imposition to place one on rocket fuel. We pay the Feds a 7.5% excise tax on our plane flights but the rich shouldn't be expected to pay any such tax for spaceflight, nosiree. Taxes should only be paid by the poor, otherwise they have no incentive to get rich.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Careful guys, we already lost Randblade to bullying.
Lewk, without getting into how government should work, how would you fund it?
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
Flat tax seems swell. And not an income tax either. Take the budget, divide by everyone 18 and up and that's how much each person pays. Budget obviously being much lower than it is now.
Fair enough, what happens to those who cannot pay?
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
Much the same as now. You have your wages garnished. I'm not overly heavy handed, there should be some grace in terms of timing and potential arrangements. Not a fan of throwing people in prison unless theirs evasion attempts.
I take it you're in favor of gutting social security, Medicare, and the military then (items making up the vast majority of federal spending)?
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REPORTED for being off topic! I specifically said "without getting into how government should work". This is about funding, not what it's spent on.
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
A. Randblade quit?
B. Lewk is completely shameless. He's been taking abuse for all his dumb ideologies for a very long time and not only hasn't learned a thing from it, apparently hasn't taken any real offense either.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
More likely he banned himself so he could concentrate on other things. Remember the old days when he would ask the moderators to ban him so he could concentrate on studies? One year the moderators were all new and he almost didn't get unbanned because they had no clue what was up.
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
Back atcha.
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
Can you admit that these billionaires can "afford" to blast into space....largely because they've avoided paying income taxes? Why should they have special tax exemptions that no one else has? Do you really think the tax code is fair and equitable? Or is it designed to allow oligarchs to use their monopoly powers to make more money, at the expense of everyone else?
If this was about Russian actors, you'd be wetting your pants trying to say how corrupt this is. But since it's about US citizens who are the richest people in the world, you're okay with the whole thing. Good to know.
Fuck off
Hell no lol.
Lewk, a flat tax is regressive. Demanding a percentage of income impacts those who can least afford it. Every academic economist says so.
Should we add this to another category where you refuse to believe the experts, because it doesn't align with your political beliefs?
Why can't you keep your thoughts and concepts coherent for even two sentences in a row? Yes, a flat tax is regressive and it is exactly what Lewk called for. A percentage of income tax is a proportional tax (and yes, its structure can still mean it has a heavy impact on those who can least afford it. Really, even the most progressive graduated tax scheme is still going to more heavily impact those with less money, all that can be done is to try and minimize that impact)
Flat tax: Everyone pays the same nominal amount, say $2,000. This is Lewk's desire. Sales and excise taxes are flat taxes though the language they are couched in will confuse some people into thinking they're proportional.
Proportional tax: Everyone pays the same percentage of their income, the same proportion, say 15%
Graduated/progressive tax: People pay differing proportions of their income depending on how much they earn, proportions typically/ideally increasing as their total income increases. What is actually used.
If you reduced the budget by 90%, that's still going to be 2,2000 dollars per person per year (actually more, I didn't bother culling the kids out of the population data). Which is going to be more than anyone who only has part time work (or even full-time work at minimum wage) is going to be able to pay, particularly with spiking housing costs.
Last edited by LittleFuzzy; 07-24-2021 at 06:10 PM.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Hey there, Lewk is the one complaining about a proposed excise tax (on space flights for billionaires) but then conflates it with an income tax (because it would only impact billionaires).
I was inarticulate in my reply but it's Lewk's love for a national flat tax idea that doesn't make sense. It's especially confounding since he also wants a smaller footprint from teh federal gov't.
What lol? A national flat tax would be far far far far simpler than the intrusive behavior shaping tax code we have now.Hey there, Lewk is the one complaining about a proposed excise tax (on space flights for billionaires) but then conflates it with an income tax (because it would only impact billionaires).
I was inarticulate in my reply but it's Lewk's love for a national flat tax idea that doesn't make sense. It's especially confounding since he also wants a smaller footprint from teh federal gov't.
What behavior has it shaped in you?
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