That's a thing? That explains some things. I had to go with a science victory in my last game because I got impatient waiting for my peace treaty with Bismarck to expire, and had the parts nearly ready anyways. Do you know the conditions needed to see this bug? I know I've seen peace treaties expire before.Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust
Seems I'm back on Victoria, so no pictures for you.
Not a clue/ Maybe it becomes a problem sometimes when declaring with city states involved. I have Venice as ally and with protection and still couldn't declare of Lizzy after she declared on Venice. Needs fixing alright.
There's a variant I'm thinking of playing next game. The AW or Always War variety. Every civ you meet, you need to declare war on immediately and never ever make peace.
Victoria pictures will do as wellSeems I'm back on Victoria, so no pictures for you.
edit: Hey, I just noticed Venice is in the green, so I need to donate money.
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
You asked for it...Victoria pictures will do as well
Spoiler:
Last edited by Wraith; 10-09-2010 at 01:35 PM.
I had two cultural allies but they were the earliest to be conqueredIt may be that you need to annex some cities and build courthouses to get rid of the extra. From there you can build what you want and avoid growth. It's trick if you want a cultural victory or can't afford
Flixy, if you've got extra cash, allying with a cultural city-state or even completing quests for them is a great way to get extra culture (as you are already aware). If you're dead-bent on the cultural victory, make sure you've got a city with very strong production for the Utopia Project. If you need to whip out that victory in the middle of a war the construction could really screw you over.
EDIT: Didn't realized you posted before me!If the war against Caesar goes well, I may liberate one or two though. But first I have to conquer three other cities, not sure how likely that is..
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
They'll be your best friends forever if you do.I had two cultural allies but they were the earliest to be conquered
Thanks. Really does look like an interesting deep little game. I still have Victoria lying about here. Shame I didn't really get into it first time I started playing. Maybe I'm not as willing to put in the time I used to. It really is a tough nut to get comfortably into. May be giving it another spin after I lose the Civ Bug.
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
It's the problem everyone has with Vicky. The learning curve on the first game is extremely steep. The second game doesn't seem quite so difficult though, if you ever get an opportunity to try a grab at it.
It's not, and it is quite worth playing (although I found myself oddly confused and unsure about what the hell I was doing when I started a new game this morning).
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
I know. But still, I played it out with military precision to a points-victory. Still 2 policies away from the culture victory. I think a culture victory is pretty much impossible unless you are able to satisfy a lucky amount of favours for a city state. I played culturally oriented and I needed at least 30 turns extra to win a cuultural victory...They'll be your best friends forever if you do.
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
I got a culture victory fairly easily. The only one I didn't get before stopping playing was a diplomatic victory. I have two fairly early stage games right now, I might see if one or the other of them can pull that off.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
I found the key to a culture victory was controlling very few cities (2 in my case) and having them both capable of cranking out production on important buildings/wonders. Choosing policies wisely helps, of course, as does the order.
Took out Alexander, Harun, and Hiawatha tonight, pillaged a lot of gold (x3 because of the Songhai special ability!)
Wraith, have the Brits release Scotland, Ireland, Mughalistan, and Canada to start the game. It keeps them from being as obnoxious (they still finish first by a landslide).
Last edited by Loki; 10-10-2010 at 10:33 PM.
Hope is the denial of reality
I might actually do that next game. The Brits are so obscenely powerful in this game that they end up being detrimental to the game.
I tried playing as India (got a country to force Britain to release Bombay province). I managed to conquer (or inherit) most of non-British India, along with Afghanistan and parts of Persia. I also had pretty advanced technology. Despite this, Britain had about 4 times more troops than me headquartered in India alone. Their total score was higher than of the next 4 great powers combined. They had something like 200 million people (the ones that count), thanks to its share of India and chunks of China. They also managed to turn half of British India into states. Not fun.
Hope is the denial of reality
I'm playing Siam, Huge World, King Level, and I'm liking it a lot. I've only got three cities but I'm allies with 7 or 8 city states. I maxed out the patronage tree so I'm getting lots of research and culture from them. They also give me food, military units, and great persons. I've been in a continuous Golden Age for going on 25 turns now because I've been converting the great people. I'm highest in tech and I haven't built a military unit since my first archer but I've still got a good sized army. Not sure how this is going to work out in the end though, Rome is devouring the rest of the world....
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
I can't play.
Steam asked me to log in, which is unsual. I haven't had to do that since I created my account years ago, so no idea what my password could be.
Going through their password reset process, they eventually emailed me a verification code, and a pre-set secret question; 'What is your mother's maiden name'.
So you go back to their login area, enter the verification code provided in their email, and enter your answer to the secret question; my mother's maiden name. It then asks you to provide a new password.
This is the point the process fails, hopeless message comes up next saying either the secret answer given is incorrect, or new password you've just entered is 'not valid'. Which is it? New password has to be more than 5 chars long, which mine is.
So you have to go through the process over and over again, each time with a new verification code, trying different ways to enter my mother's maiden name (capitalised, not, all capitals etc), different new passwords, nothing fucking works.
So now I've had to raise a ticket with Steam support and wait four months or whatever for them to fucking respond.
GAAAHH HATE STEAM
HATEHATEHATE IT
God, something similar happened to me not long ago. I don't know about you but I only get very specific and usually very short periods of time to play. So when I'm ready to play, I'm READY TO PLAY. When that happened I thought I would lose my mind. Good luck.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
That's crap manHATEHATEHATE IT
Hope you'll get it working and get your fix :/
Sit Rep from what is becoming my lets try shit out to see what sticks game. Still have the 16 cities, 6 occupied ones still working on courthouse and my cash is 33/turn and 20. Those problems are over. One thing that killed my economy was that although the conquered cities were all connected with roads, none of them led to my capital. Which means paying the upkeep, but not getting the rewards. Once I connected one city, the others connected automatically and I got +27 gold/turn, plus 4
Also, I'm playing continents, got me a caraval to meet new people and they traded 3 new luxury resources with me, +15
So, on to the next expansion phase. Gonna build 6-8 lancers before declaring on Hiawatha if he doesn't declare on me first. Thinking of razing his cities and simply sending my settlers in afterwards to prevent the whole occupied bonanza.
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
Do it. Murder them all.That's crap man
Sit Rep from what is becoming my lets try shit out to see what sticks game. Still have the 16 cities, 6 occupied ones still working on courthouse and my cash is 33/turn and 20
Also, I'm playing continents, got me a caraval to meet new people and they traded 3 new luxury resources with me, +15
So, on to the next expansion phase. Gonna build 6-8 lancers before declaring on Hiawatha if he doesn't declare on me first. Thinking of razing his cities and simply sending my settlers in afterwards to prevent the whole occupied bonanza.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Oh great. I can't declare on Dicking Horse because of an everlasting peace treaty. Fix this shit!
Sorry Oda, my only friend in the world, you're toast.
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
Until you get it fixed, you can patch it with something. If you look on torrent sites or something, you can easily find ways to make it workI can't play.
Steam asked me to log in, which is unsual. I haven't had to do that since I created my account years ago, so no idea what my password could be.
Going through their password reset process, they eventually emailed me a verification code, and a pre-set secret question; 'What is your mother's maiden name'.
So you go back to their login area, enter the verification code provided in their email, and enter your answer to the secret question; my mother's maiden name. It then asks you to provide a new password.
This is the point the process fails, hopeless message comes up next saying either the secret answer given is incorrect, or new password you've just entered is 'not valid'. Which is it? New password has to be more than 5 chars long, which mine is.
So you have to go through the process over and over again, each time with a new verification code, trying different ways to enter my mother's maiden name (capitalised, not, all capitals etc), different new passwords, nothing fucking works.
So now I've had to raise a ticket with Steam support and wait four months or whatever for them to fucking respond.
GAAAHH HATE STEAM
HATEHATEHATE IT
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
Hm can't see no comments on when it's due out.
Also, doesn't look like they're going to amend being able to skip past the opening cinematic.
If I have to hear "Welcome my son. I missed you ..." one more time ...
I never get that far.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
I'm really not that bothered by that cinematic. I just want them everlasting peace agreements out.
HyaWhatta is waiting for me with riflemen, while I'm still trotting around with musketeers and longswordsmen. I'm outteched, outgunned and outnumbered. First time this happened to me in this game.
I'm outdressing him though.
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
It happens to me all the time.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
How is the willingness to do a little succession game here by the way?
I have seen them on civfanatics, but those guys are freaks. I'd be the disrupting factor I'd think. While here we all blunder about and have a chance to see how others play.
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
I don't know what you're talking about.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
It's a joined game. First we pick a leader and what victory to aim for. Then one guy starts a game plays 20 turns (or something) taking screenshots. Posts them with an after action report and uploads the save somewhere for the next guy, who play 10, screenshot aar, etc etc.
So something like this: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=383903
Without the huge amount of theorizing what to do, as I said, freaks. After checking the first post, check second post of the second page, halfway down 3rd page for the actual report.
This being a new game, there's a lot of discussion.
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
Got my access sorted on the morning following my Steam access issues. It think they must have been having probs with their authentication server, as I didn't do anything different to get my password reset from what I was trying before? It just suddenly decided to work.
Aaaaaaaanyway.
Since then, I completed my game as Persia, Large, Marathon, Prince. Won by domination, a little too easily. Nappy had half the globe, but after the initial fight, he didn't seem to be producing more units, so I just rolled through his cities, razing them as I went.
So onto my next; Egypt, Huge, Epic. My first King difficulty game. What a difference over Prince
Have made it to the modern era thus far. Two other nations squashed the rest of 'em; Persia and the Ayrabs. Persia is ahead of me on tech and has started building SS stuff, whereas I have only just researched them, so I will lose the game in a space race
Have tanks and modern armour and helicopter gunships and all kinds of artillery though, and am having a nice little war at a chokepoint with Persia. He is being far from a pushover.
Fun fun.
Also got a screenie at home of Leonardo da Vinci driving a truck which I thought was class.
Huh. What a strange concept.
So last night I abandoned my third attempt as Siam on King Pangea - strat was to make friends with all the city states and use that support to get uber culture and tech. I just couldn't make it work and it was boring.
So, then I started a King level continents game as the Aztecs. I read a bit in my strat guide about them and ran with a attack and kill everything strat. That never worked for me in Civ 4, so I was hesitant. But I just started cranking out jag warriors and killed the first two city states I encountered, then killed Darius after two wars, then attacked Ghandi, getting a free city but overextended myself a bit and had to take some gold for peace. That last bit had more to do with it being 130am and me having to get up at 530am. In hindsight I probably should have pulled back, consolidated and harrassed him. But the action was very far from my main core of cities. Weird, the continents world has a big ass continent on it.... In any case, being a rampaging barbarian is vastly better than a cultured buddy buddy freak.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
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