Is a thing or action or fact unjust if it came to be through injustice?

[Enoch the Red]

You've yet to raise a convincing argument for why a universal moral constant exists. You keep implying there is, and I keep trying to re-iterate its only a consensus of the current crop of humans. We've either killed, imprisoned, or ostracized the outliers, or they've done it to themselves.

You are arguing that astonishingly similar rules and laws have been formed by societies that are separated by vast matrices of space, time, culture, and language, but that those rules are not innately tied to the human beings that comprise these societies, but rather the societies themselves? If all these societies do share a common moral foundation that they arrived at independently of one another, does that not imply some kind of moral constant that works for organizing disparate peoples, societies, and cultures into a productive and functioning society?

Are you going to argue that avoiding pain/death and seeking pleasure are universal moral constants?

Do you think that as a human you were born a tabula rasa, without instincts, impulses, or imperatives?