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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Homicide means there is a victim. They no longer have a voice, because they're DEAD. It's the duty of public agencies (coroners, medical examiners, police, detectives, lawyers, judges) to fully investigate on their behalf. That's true for vehicular deaths, battery/assault deaths, medically-related deaths, and gun-related deaths. The manner and cause of death matters, and shouldn't be automatically decided extra-judicially.
    I don't think the judicial system works the way you think it works. Not every arrest or investigation leads to charges. To say nothing of actual crimes. There is, built into the judicial system, a great deal of latitude for police officers and prosecutors. If the prosecutor believes they have a clear cut case of self-defense they are under no obligation to bring charges against the victim. If a woman who is in the process of being raped wrestles a knife from her would-be attacker and kills him, you believe she should be arrested, charged, detained and/or required to post bond, all in the name of justice? And you don't see a problem with that?

    Zimmerman wasn't formally charged after causing (and admitting to causing) the direct death of another human being. That's my main complaint on the front-end, aimed directly at the Sanford Police Dept.
    There are lots of people who aren't formally charged after causing the direct death of another human being. It's how the system is set up. If that's your complaint then you don't have to look all the way to the Zimmerman case to find something to complain about.

    IMO, establishing "facts", let alone guilt or innocence, shouldn't be decided by any one agency or department.
    So how, in your opinion, should the system work? How long should the rape victim be held in jail before she is released? Is it after she makes bond? If she can't afford her bond, should we keep her there until after a trial to establish the 'facts'? How many individual agencies or departments need to establish that she was being raped, did act in self defense, and is no longer a threat to society before we allow the "victim" back on the streets?

    You're also conflating the term of "active shooter".
    I don't think conflate means what you think it means. Or, you don't know what an active shooter is.
    Last edited by Enoch the Red; 07-19-2013 at 01:52 AM.

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