Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
GGT, please invest in getting a conscience.
Huh? I was explaining to Lewk the benefit of funding public education (including gov't subsidized loans for college) since that's how we get professional teachers, doctors, scientists, researchers, etc.


Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
Do you think they are going to be paid back in the example provided?

I actually don't see a benefit in the majority of the population getting college degrees. Folks who end up doing a huge portion of jobs have no need for a degree. If you're an engineer, doctor, nurse, architect, forensics specialist ect college is useful. We've got people getting degrees in history and 'education' (there's a crap degree) that is being paid for by student loans that in many cases won't be repaid.

And even in fields where college is useful, there is an overemphasis on spending 1-2 years on learning 'core' subjects unrelated to their speciality (something HS should have already provided a working knowledge of, oh and guess what many HS math courses are MORE ADVANCED than the college maths because so man people suck at math they have remedial classes THAT ARE STILL WORTH CREDIT).
Many students get undergrad degrees in those 'core' subjects (history, economics, math, political science, etc.) but need a Master's Degree to get the required credentials for a job in their specialty....including accredited teachers. That's just a natural extension of valuing higher education, and that being a "professional" means more than a HS diploma, and sometimes more than an undergrad degree.

Your disdain for public school teachers (and the NEA) is well known, but you're conflating that with college loans/subsidies for other professions that you say DO need college degrees! Who do you think is teaching those college courses in the first place?