Quote Originally Posted by gogobongopop View Post
No. I'm not suggesting other countries haven't failed either. That's equally scandalous.

You don't have to explain that people die in a pandemic. You're being a bit extreme and silly to suggest it's that or strip everyone of their civil liberties. As with all things in life, there's a balance. And generally speaking our government got that balance monumentally wrong.

I'm suggesting that the long and combined list of our government failures during this pandemic is a bigger scandal than the EU being slower than us at procuring, approving and rolling out a vaccine.

It's obviously a subjective thing and we could go round and round with posts and obviously not change each other's minds, because we're both pretty stubborn sometimes, so let's just agree to disagree, old chap.
Generally speaking they got it right. They may have sometimes erred on the side of civil liberties, if so that's not a bad thing. Some mistakes have been made, but that's generally true everywhere in the world.

The UK didn't just help procure a vaccine. We helped develop the vaccine that can be used at normal temperatures around the globe, it was paid for in large part by UK Taxpayers PLC, exported at cost to the whole globe (there will be billions of doses this year alone), ensured it was domestically produced and manufactured, developed a logistics plan for the procured supercold vaccines, developed and implemented a logistics rollout, developed the best scientific advice on how to roll out the vaccine - leading the world in finding the 12 week rollout solution that the WHO is now looking at recommending worldwide, and has led the world in fundraising and planning for vaccinating not just this country but the entire planet so we can put this pandemic behind us.

The vaccine development, manufacturing and rollout has been the single biggest problem, the single biggest solution, the single most important answer to the entire pandemic. This matters more than everything else combined. This is the end, this is the way out - and we have developed the path for others to follow to put this pandemic behind us. This trumps everything.