Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
If we guarantee medical care for seniors, we're going to pay for lots of expensive end-of-life stuff unless you want to strictly ration care.
Care is already being rationed, just not for seniors. What is your suggestion for dealing with the old people problem? Lets assume that our civilization will continue to degenerate morally to the point that letting people die without trying to help them is acceptable. What is your vision for the future; what do you hope for in this slashing of Medicare and Medicaid? Will your ideal nation at least be humane enough to euthanize those dying of injury and illness, or will it just let nature take its course? Even euthanazia costs money after all.

I want to get us out of the business of guaranteeing things we can't afford.
A better way is to find a way to afford the things we guarantee.