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  1. #181
    I definitely think that fits into Zionutty! Given that his 'article' manages to mention Tom Clancy and The Wrath of Khan, though, I think we can safely assume he doesn't actually have any real power. Thankfullly.

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    So Republican hopeful Newton Leroy suggests a radical shift in US foreign policy

    This is Zionutty in its own way I suppose, but heck, what a guy. I'd almost consider voting him over Michele for this!
    Newton Leroy? This Republican hopeful is courting a religious base that's Judeo-Christian-centric. It worked in South Carolina, and might work in Florida...but it won't necessarily work in a general election.

    If Jewish people have a right to their own state, then so do Palestinians. If US conservatives are hell bent on defending "property rights" and contractual law, then why aren't they defending the existence of Palestine as rigorously as they defend Israel's existence? That doesn't mean defending terrorists or Hamas, btw, just because Israelis or Americans have phrased the dilemma that way.....

  3. #183
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16678772

    I'd be interested to know just how widespread these beliefs are.
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  4. #184
    Sorry, Flixy, your Zionut lost this time.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...179929,00.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Ynet
    Jewish publisher who suggested Israel kill Obama resigns

    Owner of Atlanta Jewish Times Andrew Adler steps down as publisher following fierce criticism over provocative column

    Yitzhak Benhorin
    Published: 01.24.12, 09:17 / Israel News

    WASHINGTON – Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Jewish weekly Atlanta Jewish Times announced his resignation on Monday after publishing an op-ed in which he suggested that Israel assassinate US President Barack Obama.

    Adler decided to step down as editor and handed those authorities to one of his reporters. Meanwhile, CNN reported that the Secret Service has launched an investigation into Adler's activities.

    In his column, published last week, Adler laid out what he said were three options available to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in countering the threat posed by Iran's nuclear program.

    One of the options was to "give the go-ahead for US-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice-president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States' policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies."

    The other two options, according to Adler, are to attack Hezbollah and Hamas or defy the US – which he said is willing to let Israel "take a lethal bullet."

    According to Adler, who later apologized for his column, Obama has an "Alice in Wonderland" belief in diplomacy over force.

    The article sparked outrage among US Jews and a wave of condemnation by Jewish leaders. The Jewish Federation in Atlanta announced it was suspending its ties with Adler's publication as long as he is associated with it and called him to sell the newspaper.

    In a statement, the Federation said that the damage caused to the people of Israel, Jews around the world and particularly the Jewish community in Atlanta was irreparable.

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    Can't say I feel sorry for him

    The curious thing (to me) was that he saw it as a duty for the POTUS to serve the interests of Israel, not of the US, which is treason if you ask me.
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  6. #186
    American Jews were not happy about this to say the least. It feeds into all of the stereotypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    American Jews were not happy about this to say the least. It feeds into all of the stereotypes.
    I don't know this particular newspaper, but I'd say it's fairly obvious the guy puts the nutty in zionutty. Add to that that columnists are often paid to be provocative.. well, you get this.
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

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    I lol'd
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  10. #190
    Nowhere near as Zionutty but just as fun! There's a picture making its way around blogs, forums, and Facebook with the following caption:



    "An Israeli soldier puts his foot on her chest and aims his gun at this palestinian girl."

    Only problem is that the weapon he's carrying is an AK-47, not the Israeli-issue M-16 or Tavor variants. And he's not wearing an IDF uniform - the jacket zipper is wrong, and the field uniform pants should have pockets. Then this photo comes out:



    Ah, I love Zionuts...

    edit: Ah, I see Ha'aretz also had the story in English here: http://www.haaretz.com/news/national...utcry-1.410477

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  12. #192
    Plenty of Zionuttery to go around here: http://storify.com/avimayer/the-khul...-retrospective

    I'm inclined to be a bit more charitable than Mayer, but still it's pretty ridiculous.

  13. #193
    Some people have far too much time on their hands.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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  15. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    Nowhere near as Zionutty but just as fun! There's a picture making its way around blogs, forums, and Facebook with the following caption:


    Damn, look at the expression pure terror on that little girl's face. An the panic of the terrified mother. Must be legit!
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

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    Sure, but before we jump to the easy conclusion that this was a hate crime, maybe some fact-finding is in order.

    For example, when was the last time this boy bathed?
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    Our research directly addresses this issue. From a large survey of 5,000 citizens of ten European countries, we showed that the prevalence of those harboring (selfreported) anti-Semitic views consistently increases with respondents’ degree of anti-Israel sentiment (see Figures 2 and 3 and Table 3), even after controlling for other factors. It is noteworthy that fewer than one-quarter of those with anti-Israel index scores of only 1 or 2 harbor anti-Semitic views (as defined by anti-Semitic index scores exceeding 5), which supports the contention that one certainly can be critical of Israeli policies without being anti-Semitic. However, among those with the most extreme anti-Israel sentiments in our survey (anti-Israel index scores of 4), 56 percent report anti-Semitic leanings.
    http://jcr.sagepub.com.proxy2.librar...4/548.abstract

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    Hope is the denial of reality

  19. #199
    Someone needs to make an video, in the style of old British World War 2 public information broadcasts, that if you are a large organization or movement with pretensions to moral authority, it's very very important that you are not in any way complicit with sexual abuse.

    Then we get the leaders of the Catholic Church, the Anglican church, OWS and hasidic jews and make them watch it.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Someone needs to make an video, in the style of old British World War 2 public information broadcasts, that if you are a large organization or movement with pretensions to moral authority, it's very very important that you are not in any way complicit with sexual abuse.

    Then we get the leaders of the Catholic Church, the Anglican church, OWS and hasidic jews and make them watch it.
    Haredi Jews don't watch movies.

  21. #201
    A friend of mine who probably has a decent chance of knowing is of the opinion that Israel's planning to bomb Iran in October. Let the Zionuttery commence!

  22. #202
    I think anyone who claims to know these things is a Zionut. The only people who know the answer with any certainty are Netanyahu and Barak, and I doubt they're telling anyone. There might be logistical reasons why October is a good idea, but logistics don't determine political decisions.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  23. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I think anyone who claims to know these things is a Zionut. The only people who know the answer with any certainty are Netanyahu and Barak, and I doubt they're telling anyone. There might be logistical reasons why October is a good idea, but logistics don't determine political decisions.
    Yeah I'm skeptical he knows what he's talking about, but he and his wife are well-acquainted with members of the security cabinet, so I'm more likely to believe him than a random journalist. I think the chances went up significantly now that Mofaz is a player, but obviously who knows what will really happen.

    Perhaps I should phrase it like this: I'm still skeptical it's going to happen, but if a decision has been made, then October is probably their current tentatively planned strike date.

  24. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    Yeah I'm skeptical he knows what he's talking about, but he and his wife are well-acquainted with members of the security cabinet, so I'm more likely to believe him than a random journalist. I think the chances went up significantly now that Mofaz is a player, but obviously who knows what will really happen.

    Perhaps I should phrase it like this: I'm still skeptical it's going to happen, but if a decision has been made, then October is probably their current tentatively planned strike date.
    I was under the impression that Mofaz was fairly vocal about his lack of support for a unilateral Israeli strike on Iran.

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    Hope is the denial of reality

  26. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch the Red View Post
    I was under the impression that Mofaz was fairly vocal about his lack of support for a unilateral Israeli strike on Iran.
    Mofaz is hard to parse. He's a thoroughly military man - like Ehud Barak, he came up through the ranks in an elite commando unit (Netanyahu also served in this unit), and eventually became chief-of-staff of the IDF. He then has had stints as Defense Minister where he crushed the second intifada using a significant amount of force. So, he's no stranger to thinking military force is often a good first choice, and in the past he has made any number of concerned speeches about Iran.

    That being said, since his time in Kadima he has moderated his tone somewhat. He's clearly more skeptical of the utility of an Iran strike than Barak or Netanyahu, but he's far less skeptical than the main opponents of a strike in Israel's military establishment (notably intelligence chiefs and some current generals). Mofaz is also far more hawkish than his defeated predecessor at the head of Kadima, Tzipi Livni. Most Israeli political insiders seem to think that Mofaz's decision to join the coalition significantly strengthens Netanyahu and Barak's case for an Iran strike inside the security cabinet - probably both because he's fairly hawkish and because of the personal chemistry between the three men.

    More importantly, Mofaz is definitely a junior coalition partner - Kadima, though quite large now, is likely to suffer a significant loss in the next elections for the Knesset. He's not going to have as much clout as Netanyahu or Barak, and his defection just gave Netanyahu's government another 1.5 years to decide on (and execute) an attack, something that would not have been possible with a September early election.

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    "Is it true that in America, Jewish girls are crazy nasty sluts?" Question I got in Euroland two weeks ago. Not actually anti-Semitic per se, it was just sorta funny.

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    So, is it?

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