Syria riot, who suffers? who's behind it?

[katsung47]

US said Saddam was a dictator and activated a war on Iraq. As a result, Islamic extremists control Iraq and Iraq Christian suffered severe persecution. They escaped to Syria. Now US says Assad is a dictator and ..... Poor Christians, where will they go this time?

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The price of regime change

By David Warren, Ottawa Citizen
There are millions of Christians in Syria, who probably have the Russians and Chinese to thank that they may live there a little longer. The Security Council vetoes, a fortnight ago, on a resolution calling upon Syria's dictator to step down, and supporting an Arab-sponsored plan to "end the violence," put paid to any immediate prospect of western intervention.

The outrage expressed by Hillary Clinton, William Hague, and other western foreign ministers, probably concealed a little relief, for the vetoes provided the excuse they needed to avoid the issue, while continuing to posture about "humanitarianism" and "democracy."
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Christians were as common in Syria as in Egypt, before their numbers were immensely swelled by refugees from Iraq - well over a million fleeing up the Euphrates River valley, from anti-Christian persecution by Iraq's Islamists. By now, there could be more than four million Christians within Syria's borders.

When the Assad regime falls, it will be open season on them, on the Alawites, and all the other minorities. Granted, Assad is a monster who has earned an ugly fate. But at what expense should we indulge the fleeting satisfaction of deposing him?
　
Read more:

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/price+regime+change/6173293/story.html

[Aimless]

[Dreadnaught]

I wonder if he remembers how he got here.

[katsung47]

Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media

Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war
Jonathan Steele guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 17 January 2012


The key finding was that while most Arabs outside Syria feel the president should resign, attitudes in the country are different. Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war – a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria's borders.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda

[Loki]

http://clients.squareeye.net/uploads...d%20report.pdf

If anyone needs lesson on how to not do polls, the above provides an excellent illustration.

[katsung47]

Iraq: Worse for Christians Now Than under Saddam Hussein
Michael Ireland, Chief Correspondent, ASSIST News Service
Tuesday, July 01, 2008

July 2, 2008

BAGHDAD (ANS) -- The Reverend Canon Andrew White, affectionately known as The Vicar of Baghdad, says the situation for Christians in Iraq is "clearly worse" than under the Saddam Hussein regime, toppled by US and Coalition forces in 2003.

In a segment of the CBS news program 60 Minutes, originally broadcast on Dec. 2, 2007, updated June 26 and aired on June 29, 2008, correspondent Scott Pelley asked Canon White: "You were here during Saddam’s reign. And now after. Which was better? Which was worse?"

"The situation now is clearly worse" than under Saddam, White replied.

"There’s no comparison between Iraq now and then," he told Pelley. "Things are the most difficult they have ever been for Christians. Probably ever in history. They’ve never known it like now."

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religion-today/iraq-worse-for-christians-now-than-under-saddam-hussein-11578523.html

[Dreadnaught]

Kathaksung: Worse for Sane People Now Than under Atari Hussein

[Being]

Kathaksung: Worse for Sane People Now Than under Atari Hussein

This dread account really should be retired. Retard.

[Dreadnaught]

What has this varient ever done to you, citizen?

[katsung47]

There were churches in Afghan before US invasion. None is left 10 years after US occupied Afghan. Be noticed that this news indirectly(may be the news agency is afraid of being called "unpatriot"?) related this to US foreign policy.

Not a Single Christian Church Left in Afghanistan, Says State Department

By Edwin Mora
October 10, 2011
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(CNSNews.com) -- There is not a single, public Christian church left in Afghanistan, according to the U.S. State Department.

This reflects the state of religious freedom in that country ten years after the United States first invaded it and overthrew its Islamist Taliban regime.

In the intervening decade, U.S. taxpayers have spent $440 billion to support Afghanistan's new government and more than 1,700 U.S. military personnel have died serving in that country.

The last public Christian church in Afghanistan was razed in March 2010, according to the State Department's latest International Religious Freedom Report.

[Steely Glint]

None is left 10 years after US occupied Afghan.

Progress!

[BalticSailor]

Progress!

Hmm, that gives me an idea... USA should totally occupy USA!

[Steely Glint]

They'll just end up creating a bunch of muslim terrorists.

[BalticSailor]

On some days, I preffer those to christians.

[CitizenCain]

At least the Muslim terrorists occasionally blow up buildings and civilians, right? Beats wasting your time and effort on feeding the poor or establishing shelters for battered women and other sub-humans.

[katsung47]

Syrian Christians worry about life after Bashar Assad

They fear civil war and revenge attacks if President Bashar Assad falls, an anxiety fed by the sectarian violence seen in Egypt and Iraq.
Ignatius IV, patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, described Syria as an oasis of religious tolerance where Christians can worship freely, build sanctuaries and run schools, activities that are restricted by varying degrees in a number of Middle Eastern countries.

Christian clerics are frequently shown on television taking part in joint prayer services with their Muslim counterparts. The defense minister is a Christian, as are other senior members of the government and security forces.

"Wherever you go, you find Christians and Muslims," said the patriarch, who has a photograph of himself with Assad displayed on his office wall. "There is no distinction."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-fg-syria-christians-20120307,0,4403703.story

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Patriarch al-Rahi: Syria is Closest to Democracy in Arab World, Needs the Reforms Announced by President al-Assad

Mar 04, 2012
He regretted the violence and destruction taking place in Syria, saying that there are destructive plans in world politics and that the people don't want the extremists who are receiving financial, military and political support from certain countries.

"How can the Arab Spring be a spring when people are killed every day? They talk about Iraq and democracy while a million Christians out of one and a half million were forced to leave Iraq… where is democracy in Iraq?" he asked, saying that this so-called spring is closer to a winter of war, destruction and killing.
"What good is democracy if it wants to kill people and throw away stability?" Patriarch al-Rahi wondered.
http://www.sana.sy/eng/22/2012/03/04/404155.htm

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12April 2012 09:12
Syrian people urge Army not to withdrawunder Annan deal

Syriansin Homs have urged the Army not to withdraw from the western city as has beenrequired by a peace plan proposed by the special UN-Arab League envoy KofiAnnan.
Accordingto Press TV, the residents’ opposition to the pullout comes as the internationalcommunity is pressuring Damascus to implement Annan’s six-point plan.
Underthe proposed plan, the Syrian Army must first withdraw its troops frompopulated areas.
Damascushas criticized Annan for not requiring the same commitment from the armedterrorist groups, who are fighting the government, warning that they wouldenter cities as soon as the Army gets out.

http://english.irib.ir/news/politica...der-annan-deal

[ar81]

Well, he's got a point. Rebels cannot survive without money. Who is giving them the money? Even the rebel alliance was funded by public money from Alderaan senator.

Hmm, that gives me an idea... USA should totally occupy USA!

Do you mean americans occupying all USA including Wall Street? That should be a henious and infamous act of democracy... Can you imagine people voting for who gets elected in the FED? That's horrible... Now that I remember, Churchill said democracy was the worst system, and something else...

[katsung47]

SYRIA:US-NATO Supported "Opposition" Commits Extensive War Crimes

byDevon DB
Global Research,March 20, 2012

Finally, itshould be noted that there are many similarities between the Syrian rebels andthe Libyan rebels. The Libyan rebels launched a media propaganda war against Gaddafi, must likehow Al Jazeera has lied about the ongoing events in Syria. Inaddition to this, much like the Syrian rebels, the Libyan rebels also committed war crimes.

While there arethose who may be pushing for intervention into Syria, they may want to rethinkit the situation in light of this new information. The situation may end upmuch worse as the Libyan rebels were linked to Al Qaeda and the NTC is now going to enact Sharia law. We should not wantthe same fate for the people of Syria.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=29867

[katsung47]

Syria:anti-government groups committed Houla massacre

http://www.reuters.com/Reuters– 1 hr 6 mins ago

·BEIRUT (Reuters)- Syria said on Thursday a preliminary investigation showed thatanti-government armed groups committed a massacre last week in Houla, in which108 people were killed, with the aim of encouraging foreign militaryintervention against the Syrian government.

·BrigadierGeneral Qassem Jamal Suleiman, head of the investigation committee formed bythe government, said the victims were families "who refused to oppose thegovernment and were at odds with the armed groups".

·He said many ofthe victims were relatives of a member of the Syrian parliament.
(Reportingby Mariam Karouny; Editing by Kevin Liffey)

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-anti-gov...161038724.html

[Flixy]

Well, yes, Syria would say that.

[ar81]

To keep a rebellion, money is needed. Who is providing the money? It is not like a bunch of guys from a neighborhood said they would use their savings to fund a revolution.

[Loki]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/18/wo...agewanted=1&hp

Might be the beginning of the end of Assad's regime. Unless he quickly puts down the Damascus fighting, defections will accelerate, and the loyalty of Assad's supporters will be severely tested.

[Loki]

Looks like jihadis assassinated the Syrian defense minister. The noose tightens.

[katsung47]

Well, yes, Syria would say that.

Quote, "Houla massacrecarried out by Free Syrian Army, according to Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung

ByChris Marsden
13June 2012

TheMay 25 Houla massacre was perpetrated by opposition forces aligned with theFree Syrian Army (FSA), according to Germany’s leading daily newspaper,Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

Thereport refutes the official account by the United States and other major powersand presented uncritically by the media. The massacre was attributed topro-government forces and used to step up the propaganda offensive for militaryintervention against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. Without providing any seriousevidence, the US and its allies claimed that either the Syrian Army orpro-government Shabiha militas carried out the mass killing of over 100 people.

TheFrankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on June 7 published a report from Damascus byRainer Hermann, who based his article on investigations by oppositionists whovisited the area and took eye-witness testimony. They largely confirm theaccount of the events in Houla given by the Assad government.

“Theirfindings contradict allegations of the rebels, who had blamed the Shabihamilitias which are close to the regime”, Hermann wrote, adding, “Asoppositionists rejecting the use of force have been killed or at leastthreatened lately, the oppositionists did not want to see their namesmentioned.”

Themassacre took place after Friday prayers and began with an attack by Sunni“rebels” on three Syrian army checkpoints around Houla. “The checkpoints aredesigned to protect the Alawite villages around the mostly Sunni Houla”, theGerman daily reported.

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Onthe day of the attacks, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, withoutevidence, condemned the Syrian government’s “unacceptable levelsof violence and abuses”, including the use of heavy weapons on civilianpopulations.

The regime noted that themassacre was timed to coincide with the visit of UN envoy Kofi Annan toDamascus. It charged that the mass killings were carried out to undermine theceasefire Annan had negotiated. Soon after, the FSA, which is now accused ofcarrying out the massacre, said it would no longer respect the Annan peaceplan. New demands for military intervention came thick and fast.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/ju...syri-j13.shtml

[Loki]

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/articl...ed-3764895.php Ouch.

[Flixy]

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/articl...ed-3764895.php Ouch.

Off topic, but the ad right under the title, which at a glance reads like another headline or subtitle, was "Is Jesus Really God? Scholars Examine the Facts About Jesus' Claims to be God"

[Loki]

Written by kat?

[katsung47]

US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia have plotted bloodbath for years.

Image: Real genocidal atrocities during the "Arab Spring"occurred at the hands of NATO and its proxy sectarian terrorists. Pictured isSirte, Libya, after NATO-armed rebels surrounded it, cut off power, water,food, and emergency aid, and allowed NATO to bombard it with daily airstrikesbefore a final orgy of death and destruction left its streets and facadescrumbling. This is the "civilian protection" the UN and itsenforcement arm NATO plan on bringing to Syria.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/US%2C...38/38/Y/M.html