Just because A technology has its limits (and I agree on that) does not mean that ALL technology does or will be met within this century. While nano-processes may become more common, that technology is a tool and only part of the bigger picture. There are far more technologies out there that we still have a long way to improve on yet. Plus information includes how we use and apply it as well, not just how we create it.
Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer
This is information, not the information era. Yes formulas and calculations will continue to improve. Hell, we're still working on the perfect wheel and gear. It does not mean they will continue to improve at their current or previous rate.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
You're right, but they may just as equally improve more.
I see no evidence of a slowing down in improvements actually happening, can you point to it? People have been saying such will happen for centuries but instead we exponentially improve further.
It's noted in the links, Gordon's research paper in particular goes back centuries and covers the main Industrial Revolutions (3). The links in the OP are the meat of the discussion, not the intro I wrote.
edit--you can't eat an iPad.
Hazir's correct about 'income growth' since the 70s. That era had only one IR (technology/information), and was the beginning of higher income inequality, shedding jobs, restructuring labor, etc. Other theories assume the financial engineering, monetizing mortgage debt, and the housing bubbles were reactions to globalization and slow domestic growth. More short term 'profits' in asset switching, than real sustainable growth, with a growing middle class. That's part of the Big Picture, too.
As for policy....'austerity' that strips funding from education, health, or infrastructure aren't recipes for growth. It's hard to pin down Romney's proposals (because he flips around so much, and doesn't give specifics) but I'm pretty sure Ryan's budget assumes 4% growth in GDP in his math. That's part of the theory that tax cuts create jobs and grow an economy, and Trickle Down. Well, the last decade or two rather busts that theory. The wealthy have recovered and corporate profits are high, but their trillions in cash aren't putting folks to work. And the middle class is still stuck in the doldrums.
You don't need to eat an iPad. Never heard of Maslow? We've satisfied the need for food a long time agoIt's noted in the links, Gordon's research paper in particular goes back centuries and covers the main Industrial Revolutions (3). The links in the OP are the meat of the discussion, not the intro I wrote.
edit--you can't eat an iPad.
On average, each calorie you consume takes 12 of burnt oil, thoughYou don't need to eat an iPad. Never heard of Maslow? We've satisfied the need for food a long time ago
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
For a vegetarian?
Congratulations America
"We" still have global food crises, whether in production shortages or distribution gaps. Maybe you've forgotten when The Great Recession -- and international droughts or floods -- caused commodity price jumps, some one billion people fell into poverty and hunger, and there were riots over grains, cooking oil, and bread?You don't need to eat an iPad. Never heard of Maslow? We've satisfied the need for food a long time ago
The US (and UK) still have people who need food assistance because of unemployment and/or underemployment with low wages, retirees whose SS checks barely make ends meet, more children living in poverty....No, "we" haven't satisfied the need for food. And it's not something to roll your eyes about.
Look, if you don't want to read the links and comment about their theories and data about future growth, that's fine. But I'm not interested if your posts are just tangential critiques of my posts.
Strangely enough people with food stamps can somehow afford a smart phone with a data plan. I guess you can't eat iPads but it appears that if you can afford one you shouldn't be worried about starving..It's noted in the links, Gordon's research paper in particular goes back centuries and covers the main Industrial Revolutions (3). The links in the OP are the meat of the discussion, not the intro I wrote.
edit--you can't eat an iPad.
Hazir's correct about 'income growth' since the 70s. That era had only one IR (technology/information), and was the beginning of higher income inequality, shedding jobs, restructuring labor, etc. Other theories assume the financial engineering, monetizing mortgage debt, and the housing bubbles were reactions to globalization and slow domestic growth. More short term 'profits' in asset switching, than real sustainable growth, with a growing middle class. That's part of the Big Picture, too.
As for policy....'austerity' that strips funding from education, health, or infrastructure aren't recipes for growth. It's hard to pin down Romney's proposals (because he flips around so much, and doesn't give specifics) but I'm pretty sure Ryan's budget assumes 4% growth in GDP in his math. That's part of the theory that tax cuts create jobs and grow an economy, and Trickle Down. Well, the last decade or two rather busts that theory. The wealthy have recovered and corporate profits are high, but their trillions in cash aren't putting folks to work. And the middle class is still stuck in the doldrums.
MetroPCS phones are the cheapest phones in my region, cheaper than even Tmobile's pay as you go. I'm paying $25 a line, a month, for all you can eat everything. Not all smartphones or data plans / speeds are created equal.
and ipads aren't smartphones
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
If you don't have an intelligent reply to the OP links, please don't contaminate this thread with your ideological nonsense. Go pimp your own existing threads.
Your entire premise is retarded. Tomorrow will be better than today. You're a freaking pessimistic Luddite who thinks that this era is somehow special and will buck all trends. Sure its possible a nuclear war will break out. Sure its possible that some new deadly contagion will decimate the world's population. But its not likely. Technology will continue to make life easier and more productive. Life expectancy will go up. Medicinal advances will occur. And life will be better tomorrow then it is today. This thread and basically half of all your posts are dedicated to a bleak outlook of the future witch says an awful lot about yourself. Sad really.If you don't have an intelligent reply to the OP links, please don't contaminate this thread with your ideological nonsense. Go pimp your own existing threads.
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