I may be mistaken, but the impression I am getting is that you would like more.Originally Posted by GGT
The US Dept. of Education sets minimum standards. Repeat, minimum. All the US states have plenty of leeway and wiggle room to exceed the minimum. That's not federal mission creep. So WTF are you talking about?
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Do you think most children in the South are currently getting an education of a decent quality? If not, is the reason too much federal oversight?
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Do you think the kids in inner city bastions of left wing policies are doing so well and that federal oversight would fix it?
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Sorry, did I miss your post about national minimum educational standards for the military?
Yes, in that I have said TWICE that I'm not against standards.
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Do you think the inner city kids are failing in school due to federal policy?
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Do you think federal policy would fix them?
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Depends on the federal policy. Doesn't seem very smart to reject the possibility out of hand. The current policies, made mostly at the local and state level, seem to be having disastrous results. I would think that anything that forces school districts to improve standards can only be a good thing.
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Are you saying the kids in poor, southern, right-wing bastions of our Union should be our BEST national standard?
No, again, I don't object to standards.
Now if you will notice I was giving Loki a small taste of his own arguing style that you rail against.
But I will ask again more directly, don't you want more federal control of schools?
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Me? I just want public schools to be better, giving kids the best educations, hiring the best teachers..... regardless of which state they live in, parental income or net worth, or state GDP.
It would just be nice if the worst performing states didn't blame the federal gov't for their failures, while asking for more federal dollars to improve their performance....
I'd understood that the Discovery Institute had tried and failed to even author a school class level curriculum on ID, let alone succeed in introducing one to the classroom. Though my last reading on this was several years back, admittedly.
Or are you here referring to the fact that schools still attend to such silliness as "teach the controversy", or "evolution is just a theory" and that there "are alternatives" ?
For the record, Mitt Romney actually accepted the science of evolution and opposed the teaching of so-called "intelligent design" theory in science classrooms when he was governor of Massachusetts.
Yeah keep telling yourself that
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
So you don't want more federal involvement in public schools?
What schools are blaming the federal gov for thier lack luster performance? I'll be right behind you (platonicly of course) denouncing them too.
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Honest question - how do states compare in educational outcomes when you take income into account?
How do the states compare when you take immigration into account (i.e. what most southern states don't get)? Also, have you considered the possibility that southern states have poor income because they have poor education systems?
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What do you mean southern state's don't get immigration...
And you can argue chicken and egg but poor folks on average always do worse. (Which makes a certain amount of sense when you consider that poor people are poor due to poor decisions).
http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress...he-us-2000.png Where are the southern immigrants once you get east of Texas?
Do you think that perhaps people who get a poor education might be more likely to make poor decisions?
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So you label the south but exclude Texas? Define south for me.
States that were on the wrong side of the Civil War (minus southern Florida and northern Virginia).
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So a very small part of the US population. Are you including Texas because it was in the civil war and it has gigantic levels of immigration.
Texas is also relatively rich, while being below average in education...
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The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
WTF, UKIP isn't even racist (not that this would be legitimate even if it was).
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Holy shite. Good thing the foster parents didn't complain on twitter, then they would be jail too.
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Best comment I've seen on this all day!
Absolutely disgusting story, completely unacceptable.
I would charge the council with kidnapping.
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Yeah, I'm just a little sensitive on this being a foster parent myself. I can see losing my Gay Card for being a registered R and wearing easyfit jeans...but losing my kids?
Best comment I've seen on this all day!
Absolutely disgusting story, completely unacceptable.
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Wow. Just... wow. What the hell is wrong with the UK?
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