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    Fox News, again.

    Quote Originally Posted by BBC
    Apology for 'Muslim Birmingham' Fox News claim

    An American terrorism commentator has apologised for describing Birmingham as a "Muslim-only city" where non-Muslims "don't go" during a Fox News interview.

    Steven Emerson told the channel that in London "Muslim religious police" beat "anyone who doesn't dress according to Muslim, religious Muslim attire".

    He later issued an apology for his "terrible error".

    His comments have come in for ridicule, with the hashtag #FoxNewsFacts trending on Twitter.

    Mr Emerson, who founded a group called The Investigative Project on Terrorism, was giving his perspective on the terror attacks in France to Fox presenter Jeanine Pirro.

    Birmingham City Council said Mr Emerson's "curious" comments had no foundation, and welcomed his apology, while Birmingham Edgbaston MP Gisela Stuart described the remarks as "stupid".
    Birmingham, the largest and most populous city outside of London, is muslim only.

    Are Fox commentators paid by dollars-per-stupid ?

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    The Swedish Migration Board has decided to deport a 17-y-o boy from North Korea... to China... from where he will certainly be sent back to North Korea to a labour camp or to his death... based on a demonstrably incorrect reading of a report of a linguistic analysis (essentially misreading "dude's north-korean, yo" as "dude's def. not north-korean, yo"), an unusually high level of ignorance (re. what we currently believe we know about NK, what we know about the possibility of border-crossings between NK and China etc) and the bizarre assumption that, because he successfully evaded detection by Chinese authorities, he must have been in China with the express permission of said authorities.

    What the fucking fuck
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    From briefly scanning the article, seems like the police didn't announce themselves, AND managed to enter the wrong house. I'm not gonna say the shooting was justified, but it seems like a monumental fuckup on the police's end. I don't know why the article described them as clearing the rooms either - it implies the police were armed and actively searching things out. I also wonder at what time in the morning.

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    That's what you get when you're allowed to shoot anyone who enters your house I guess. On a side note, why are they even in the house without a search warrant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    On a side note, why are they even in the house without a search warrant?
    There was a bomb threat so this would be ruled as exigent circumstance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent...ted_States_law
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    The Swedish Migration Board has decided to deport a 17-y-o boy from North Korea... to China... from where he will certainly be sent back to North Korea to a labour camp or to his death... based on a demonstrably incorrect reading of a report of a linguistic analysis (essentially misreading "dude's north-korean, yo" as "dude's def. not north-korean, yo"), an unusually high level of ignorance (re. what we currently believe we know about NK, what we know about the possibility of border-crossings between NK and China etc) and the bizarre assumption that, because he successfully evaded detection by Chinese authorities, he must have been in China with the express permission of said authorities.

    What the fucking fuck
    Nice sob-story. If it weren't for the fact that he can simply ask to be admitted to South Korea. Thus preventing being sent (back) to North Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Nice sob-story. If it weren't for the fact that he can simply ask to be admitted to South Korea. Thus preventing being sent (back) to North Korea.
    Ask whom? Ask China? If it is so easy to get China to send defectors to SK, why do so many get sent to NK from China? Ask the Swedish migration board? They have already decided to treat him as of he's an asylum seeker from China, and that's where they intend to send him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Ask whom? Ask China? If it is so easy to get China to send defectors to SK, why do so many get sent to NK from China? Ask the Swedish migration board? They have already decided to treat him as of he's an asylum seeker from China, and that's where they intend to send him.
    Ask the South Koreans; thousands of people crossed the North Korean - Chinese border in order to travel to South Korea. South Korea in principle admits every North Korean who defects (considers them citizens). The idea that this boy will wind up in a North Korean prison camp just because he will be sent to China is ludicrous.

    Keeping him in Sweden is just denying a real asylum seeker access to the system.
    Last edited by Hazir; 01-19-2015 at 11:50 AM.
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    You seem to be referring to those north Koreans who went from China to South Korea without being detected by Chinese authorities, which would not be the case with this person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    You seem to be referring to those north Koreans who went from China to South Korea without being detected by Chinese authorities, which would not be the case with this person.
    You seem to be blind to the essential piece of information; South Korea considers all Koreans citizens. If he calls the South Korean Embassy they will issue him South Korean travel documents.
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    But he doesn't want in Korea, he wants to live in Sweden. In the city that is, just like this guys.

    Forty asylum seekers refuse to get off the bus for 24 hours after arriving at picturesque Swedish village where they were being housed… because they wanted to live in a city
    Asylum seekers from Syria were unhappy with accommodation offered
    Temporary housing in Grytan village, Sweden, was 'too cold and rural'
    More than 30 Syrian remained on the bus and some started a hunger strike
    Protesters demanded to be taken back to Malmo or to a big city
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3PHEsOEV2

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    That story has been somewhat misrepresented in both local and international media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    That story has been somewhat misrepresented in both local and international media.
    Like your korean sob-story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Like your korean sob-story.
    *shrugs* If it is as you say it is, then it is certainly curious that his lawyer has not turned to the SK embassy in Sweden. Perhaps he's a nork spy sent to scout out the Swedish defenses. If you are right, then we can at least presume he won't have to be sent to a death camp in North Korea. I took the liberty of asking his lawyer for general information pertaining to nork asylum seekers contacting the SK embassy in the country they've fled to but I doubt I'll get a response.

    That of course does not make the Swedish migration board's management of the case, or their reasoning--or their continued reliance of the much-maligned Sprakab, or, in this case, their bizarre unreliance--any less fucked up. The "wtf" bit about the story is not that an asylum-seeker is being deported from Sweden, the "wtf" bit has to do with what we know of the decision and how it seems to have been made.

    Perhaps you have your legitimate reasons for giving this chronically incompetent agency the benefit of the doubt, but in my experience--and from what I've learned from those of my friends and acquaintances who've had to deal with them both professionally and as private citizens--in many matters such as these, they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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    The thing is of course that the Swedish agency can't bestow South Korean citizenship on him so that if they are confronted with a person who claims to be a North Korean, then they will have to treat him as if he's a North Korean. It's the only way he can apply for asylum I bet. As for the depiction of the matter by the lawyer; he would not have any interest in pointing out the obvious, because in that case his client simply doesn't have a case. What you also shouldn't forget is that a lot of these lawyers the aim is to destroy a system they percieve as grossly unjust. No amount of reason (for example that Sweden can't absorb the millions of people that would like to come there) has no relevance whatsoever.

    I for my part don't like people who turn every kind of humanitarian policy into a suicide pact.
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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Increased terror threats
    Proliferation of versions of Islamic State in expanding pockets of the world
    Letters to mosques from the tories on limiting extremism
    IMF cuts growth forecasts
    Price of gas cut to consumers at the coldest point so far this winter
    General election in five months

    ... and what is all over the national news? A parent charges another parent £15.95 because their son didn't show up to a birthday party.

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    Well it's not like the rest isn't all over the news as well, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    Increased terror threats
    Proliferation of versions of Islamic State in expanding pockets of the world
    Letters to mosques from the tories on limiting extremism
    IMF cuts growth forecasts
    Price of gas cut to consumers at the coldest point so far this winter
    General election in five months

    ... and what is all over the national news? A parent charges another parent £15.95 because their son didn't show up to a birthday party.
    You'd think ditching boobs on page 3 would be the bigger news.
    Congratulations America

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    To be replaced with gender-neutral boobs.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    So Belgian police were looking for a terrorism suspect, believed to be in France or Spain, but he turned himself in after seeing himself in the news.. and he was at home, in Belgium, wearing an electronic ankle bracelet (so house arrest). How the hell did they 'lose' him?
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    17.3 m people visited Amsterdam last year. That's more than the entire population of the country.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    17.3 m people visited Amsterdam last year. That's more than the entire population of the country.
    and thats only about a tenth of Disney's annual attendance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    17.3 m people visited Amsterdam last year. That's more than the entire population of the country.
    The same could be said of many countries, Hazir. Spain, France, most of the smaller countries like UAE/Qatar/Luxembourg/Malta/Carribean islands/Singapore, Austria, Greece, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    17.3 m people visited Amsterdam last year. That's more than the entire population of the country.
    WTF, why would you post that in the WTF thread?

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    WTF, why would you post THAT in the WTF thread?
    Hope is the denial of reality

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