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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    What you might hear is people pointing out the spectacular hypocrisy of bigots talking shit about immigrants when their ancestors were themselves unwelcome immigrants. See for example one Donald Drumpf
    That's mainly a Native American talking point.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    That's mainly a Native American talking point.
    Not really, it occurs to most of us who know that the country was built on waves of immigration, waves which were always composed primarily of the poor and dispossessed who didn't have work to keep them on their land back where they emigrated from. Any decent history education actually points out the not-infrequent political cartoons/editorials whereby contemporaries pointed out that the English and Dutch had been in the same boat as the Germans they were despising, how the North and Western Europeans were reacting to the Italians, Greeks, and Spaniards exactly as they themselves had been reacting to, etc. Asians trying to get into the country? Time for a quota system, it would be abominable to welcome them like us Irish and Italians were welcomed. So on and so forth. A far more regular pattern than the Great Revivals.
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