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    Seems you are missing the part where the countries of the EU besides the UK are not only getting serious with raising their defense budgets and considering how to pool those budgets.

    I wonder why you're suddenly bringing up your nuclear deterrant now that BoJo the clown is toadying up to every dictator around Europe he can find. It's an interesting pattern by the way how the xenophobes and racists all around Europe seem to love Vladimir.
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    The Foreign Secretary is being diplomatic with other nations, what a shock.

    Almost as much of a shock as the idea the solution to NATO is "more Europe". When we were told during the campaign that the idea of a European army was a Leave lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    The Foreign Secretary is being diplomatic with other nations, what a shock.

    Almost as much of a shock as the idea the solution to NATO is "more Europe". When we were told during the campaign that the idea of a European army was a Leave lie.
    It was a lie, as you were using your veto against it. Now that your veto effectively evaporated it may come about.

    Your minister of foreign affairs isn't being 'diplomatic with other nations', he's toadying up to dictators.
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    Yes our veto had clearly worked wonders in the past

    You think he'd be better off patronising the leader elect of the free world that "we will teach him about how Europe works"? Or attending an "emergency" summit of foreign ministers due to an allies election result?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Yes our veto had clearly worked wonders in the past

    You think he'd be better off patronising the leader elect of the free world that "we will teach him about how Europe works"? Or attending an "emergency" summit of foreign ministers due to an allies election result?
    1. your veto; as there is no EU army, I'd say it was pretty effective.
    2. how does the EU reacting to the Trump election validate your toadying up to dictators?
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    1. No army yet does not mean there never would have been.
    1a. That you would even consider uniting your armies just shows how far apart we were in what we wanted from the European Union. If you guys want a political Union and we don't then why should we veto what you want rather than just find a new non political relationship?
    2. I don't think we are toadying.
    2a. Your reaction was pathetic. Unrelated to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    The Foreign Secretary is being diplomatic with other nations, what a shock.
    Weird. And here I was thinking you were wanting him to be "honest" and "offensive", after all, you never got anywhere with being diplomatic.

    Your own words.
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    Funny I don't recall saying that. Searching by posts for the word "offensive" doesn't bring up posts of me saying it either.

    I recall suggesting he should be strong and stand up for Britain and not afraid to say what you don't want to hear if it's in our national interest. The rest is in your head.
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    I could've sworn you were in favour of at least some of his offensive antics both as politician and as ass-clown whose garbage people chose to publish for some reason.
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    Find a post of me saying he should be "offensive" in my "own words" since that's what was claimed. Or may Khen should apologise as I do when I make a mistake.

    I don't think his antics are offensive and think some people need to stop being so prissy. Nor do I think he's a clown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    We've had diplomatic ministers for the last 40 years, much good it's done us. We need someone willing and able to say the unsayable, challenge the orthodoxy and stand up for Britain. Johnson ticks every box.
    I think this is the post he must be referring to, which is in a discussion about BoJo offending yet another foreign politician.
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    And in my "own words" did I say he should be "offensive"?

    Since when was "say the unsayable, challenge the orthodoxy and stand up for Britain" = "offensive"?

    I stand by everything I wrote. As for that foreign politician getting offended, he got offended by a tenant of faith being challenged. Tough shit, that's not Boris being gratuitously offensive, if you're that pretentious that you get offended by your faith being challenged then maybe you should find another career.
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    My bad, I just assumed you approved of him calling a president a goat-fucker, not to mention all this shit. But nvm, carry on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    My bad, I just assumed you approved of him calling a president a goat-fucker, not to mention all this shit. But nvm, carry on
    Shush, that was back when Randblade still was a fan of insulting Erdogan. Now he's all with toadying up to him. These Brexiteers are a bit hard to keep up with as they change their opinions faster than a prostitute changes her panties. However, you can be certain that in the end it will all boil down to them never forgiving us Europeans that they lost the last war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Funny I don't recall saying that. Searching by posts for the word "offensive" doesn't bring up posts of me saying it either.

    I recall suggesting he should be strong and stand up for Britain and not afraid to say what you don't want to hear if it's in our national interest. The rest is in your head.
    Then maybe you should re-read the article I referenced. Threatening another country when talking to said country's minister is somewhat offensive in the literal meaning of the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    My bad, I just assumed you approved of him calling a president a goat-fucker, not to mention all this shit. But nvm, carry on
    You mean the stuff he said when he wasn't Foreign Secretary? There's a difference between being a journalist and Foreign Secretary.
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    Shush, that was back when Randblade still was a fan of insulting Erdogan. Now he's all with toadying up to him. These Brexiteers are a bit hard to keep up with as they change their opinions faster than a prostitute changes her panties. However, you can be certain that in the end it will all boil down to them never forgiving us Europeans that they lost the last war.
    I'm not a fan of Erdogan and haven't seen any toadying that comes close to Merkel personally authorising the arrest and prosecution of people who insulted him.

    Oh and not sure when you slept through history classes but we won the war.
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    Then maybe you should re-read the article I referenced. Threatening another country when talking to said country's minister is somewhat offensive in the literal meaning of the word.
    No its not and people have been threatening the UK too so not sure why you bolded it. Threatening another country with consequences is exactly how diplomacy works and a key part of Johnson's job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    No its not and people have been threatening the UK too so not sure why you bolded it. Threatening another country with consequences is exactly how diplomacy works and a key part of Johnson's job.
    No, that's not how diplomacy works, Rand. You'd be very fast out of a job of you acted like this moron Johnson while being an accredited diplomat.
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    Yes because accredited diplomats are not politicians and are not supposed to act as the Foreign Secretary has to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    I'm not a fan of Erdogan and haven't seen any toadying that comes close to Merkel personally authorising the arrest and prosecution of people who insulted him.
    Exactly when was anyone arrested?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Yes because accredited diplomats are not politicians and are not supposed to act as the Foreign Secretary has to.
    "Has to"? Geeze, Rand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    Exactly when was anyone arrested?
    22 April 2016
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
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    Well, I can't argue with that.

    http://mesquitelocalnews.com/2016/04...il-16-22-2016/
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    The national mythology of the UK is that it won the war. The reality of course is that it happened to side with the real winners of the war. A bit like when a mouse and two elephants are jumping on a bridge and the mouse excitedly shouts 'aren't we making it move!'. But what's funnier about that whole thing is that Germany losing that war didn't make you much of a winner in any way. By the time you were let into the EC it was almost out of pity for the sorry state you were in.

    In newer developements; we're getting closer and closer to the moment where the ECJ will rule on the legality of Brexit. I fear a bit for the laughing fit I may have on the day the whole mess is referred to Luxemburg. Randblade may also acquaint himself with the name of a more realistic new French president than his preferred Marine Le Pen.
    Congratulations America

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    You might want to check the link between that date and a certain poem Khen, but you didn't ask that question so I'll let you figure the rest out by yourself.

    The UK and our allies did win the war, it is a myth to suggest the USA alone won it. As for the state the UK was in, in the seventies after decades of socialism, no arguing from me. Thankfully Thatcher, not the EC, sorted us out and we've never looked back. I don't want to undo Thatcherism.

    The only question likely to get ruled on by the ECJ regarding Brexit is if Article 50 is reversible if we change our minds.

    As for the French Presidency, I don't want Le Pen to win.
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    Le Pen is a statist, pro-regulation, anti-business, nationalist.
    Fillon is a liberal, low-regulation, free market, nationalist. Who happens to be described as an Anglophile.

    One guess which of those two I'd support.
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    Le Pen of course.
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    Wrong of course.

    Fillon is the first potential French President in a long time I think could be very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Le Pen is a statist, pro-regulation, anti-business, nationalist.
    Fillon is a liberal, low-regulation, free market, nationalist. Who happens to be described as an Anglophile.

    One guess which of those two I'd support.
    Also described as pro-Putin. On record blaming Crimea on the West.
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    Who's that?
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    Fillon.
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