And this is the kind of "free speech" that we're supposed to respect: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...dd3_story.html
And this is the kind of "free speech" that we're supposed to respect: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...dd3_story.html
Hope is the denial of reality
Dude. You spineless mofos literally voted to make a racist misogynistic shithead the president of your country and he's putting other racist assclowns in his cabinet while the rest of the ostensibly righteous Right is busy bending over backwards trying to suck up to their new leader. Both neo-Nazis and the KKK are expanding while other slightly more polished xenophobic ethno-nationalist white supremacists are making giant strides forward after the election. But sure, tell me more about how strongly the right opposes racismOriginally Posted by Lewkowski
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
"hilarious", right Lewk?
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Nonsense.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
That's not free speech. There is no right to libel under free speech, nor threats. Anyone guilty should be prosecuted.
Hopefully the Streisand Effect works here and the restaurant is busier and more popular than ever.
When the left calls everyone and everything a racist y'all are like the boy who cried wolf.Dude. You spineless mofos literally voted to make a racist misogynistic shithead the president of your country and he's putting other racist assclowns in his cabinet while the rest of the ostensibly righteous Right is busy bending over backwards trying to suck up to their new leader. Both neo-Nazis and the KKK are expanding while other slightly more polished xenophobic ethno-nationalist white supremacists are making giant strides forward after the election. But sure, tell me more about how strongly the right opposes racism
Well I have 0 free articles left but pizzagate isn't really different folks on the left screaming 'no blood for oil' and Bush rape claims. Or relatively non-political black helicopter/fake lunar landing fools. And certainly NOT what we are talking about when we talk about free speech.
Republicans, defender of small business
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Pizzagate involves an apparently innocent entrepreneur, with an innocuous business, suffering economic, social and psychological harm due to the irresponsible actions of your brethren. It doesn't really matter if it's "no different" from other conspiracy theories, although it would seem that it is indeed different due to its devastating impact on a single individual. It's reprehensible, and your refusal to disavow this bs that gives your alt-right and reddit-wanking buddies so much lulz is, frankly, embarrassing.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I think comparing it to people who believe the moon landing was fake is disavowing it as nonsense.
Nonsense. People who believe the moon-landing was fake don't typically cause this much harm to private individuals. If they did, such harrassment would by rights be considered significant rather than trivial. You're attempting to trivialize the actions of your antisocial buddies, which is kinda gutless.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
It's hard to deny that free speech, as currently accepted in the US (no truth required), is problematic for our democracy. Fact-checking isn't doing the job in the public media forum. Biggest-most-blatant-liars-win is no (good) way to choose a nation's leadership. There's a price for this.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Except claims the moon-landing was a hoax didn't damage someone's property which is something I thought you actually cared about. But apparently that's only when you can throw some black guy in jail or see an indigent run down and killed.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Its a gizmodo piece but it does a pretty good job explaining how reddit has found itself in its current troubles, how trolls have taken over the site and how they convince weak minded people like Lewk that they are 100% in the right and that everyone else is out to suppress them without cause. Same shit is happening here, abit on a much smaller scale, as the mods have refused to do anything to curtail lewk's hateful and harmful rhetoric.
http://gizmodo.com/reddit-is-tearing...art-1789406294
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"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
"Maybe don't say racial slurs?"
"OMG MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS UNDER ATTACK"
Meanwhile, In the Whitehouse
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The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Ah the next step in the liberal play book. "We are losing the debate." "Well let's just silence the opposition!" Now before you go whining about what I mean here - this isn't something new that liberals dream up. They do this *all the time.*
* Conservative speakers on campus are regularly harassed, booed, heckled, fire alarms pulled, violence, etc to not allow them to speak
* Talk radio was attempted to be shut down with the 'Fairness Doctrine'
* "Hate Speech"
* The asking of Reddit to ban The_Donald
* The liberal hard on for a single repository of truth
* Instead of discussing the item they almost instantly switch to ad hominem attacks such as 'racist' 'sexists' 'aphobe' 'white supremacist'
The cure for speech you find offensive - is more speech. Free speech does not give you a pass for libel/slander, terrorist threats, fire in a crowded theater, etc. However POLITICAL speech should be the MOST protected of all. And liberals, finding their arguments failing to persuade the general public turn to other means to try to win, by silencing the opposition. They don't want true debate - "Fair and Balanced" is an anathema to them. (Note: Fox is hardly balanced but they try to bring on other points of view at times). That is because liberals, as a general rule, do NOT want rational debate. The average liberal thinks the average voter is an idiot. They think that the 'elite' should rule over the peasantry and decide what is best because the average hick can't rule themselves. The average 'common man' is too stupid to avoid being abused by business. Modern day liberalism is all about paternalistic laws designed to protect people from themselves.
Indefensible really. Though it isn't like he is worse than Hillary in this regard.
You want to demonstrate you care about free speech by suggesting the moderators banning someone for their rhetoric?
Unless a rule is broken there's no reason for a mod to ban anyone. Even if one is the banhammer comes out as a last resort.
Did you purposely reply to my post with an example of the type of weak mindless kneejerk response I already explained happens, or are you so ignorant that you didn't catch what was going on?
one's inability to read would make it difficult for one to properly moderate. This does answer a few things.
Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 12-01-2016 at 07:51 PM.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Tell me, are you going to keep this "but Hillary!" nonsense up through the entirety of Trumps presidency?
Like, when he has FEMA harvest the organs, skin and sinew of gay couples and migrants to construct a horrific flesh gollum, which he will command to hunt down and devour people who talk shit about him on twitter, are you going to be, like "but what about hillary's emails, is that the real scandal?"
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
No but flag burning is pretty damn specific.
No, I'm sure at some point in 2020 he'll start saying "but (new Dem nominee)" instead.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Yes, that's specific. Don't you find it odd when the 'protectors of free speech' would make flag burning a felony offense?
If you believe in free speech, and political speech....and can defend the Citizen's United decision that protects marketers and lobbyists.....then surely you can defend flag burning. Right?
Last edited by GGT; 12-02-2016 at 06:32 AM.
Dude I said "Indefensible really." People who burn flags are stupid liberals but they have every right to be stupid if it is their own property they are burning. It absolutely is a free speech is and Trump's position is, let me quote myself again, "INDEFENSIBLE."
I'm confused. What are you saying is indefensible?
"Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"
Well, I agree that loss of citizenship is an indefensible (and unconstitutional) prescription for burning the American flag. I'm not sure what you're saying, Lewk. You harp on about Free Speech, and suggest that only "liberals" hate Free Speech...but can't explain why conservatives who want to restrict/limit the same speech is any different.
You see, when a liberal does something he doesn't like he assumes all liberals think the same, but if a republican or conservative does something he doesn't like it's not all conservatives who think like that.
By the way I'm pretty sure he's saying any punishment for burning a flag is wrong.
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
Except when he thinks it's funny because it makes liberals sad.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Except Hillary sponsored a bill that would have criminalized flag burning, with a comparable punishment.
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