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  1. #2221
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/2...n-lawsuit.html Fuzzy, is this enough constitutional scholars for you?
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  2. #2222
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Considering I couldn't give less of a monkey's arse if someone says Happy Holidays and think that Christians can be pretentious snowflakes who can go fudge themselves if they think there's a conspiracy involved ... I think I'm pretty safe at being consistent here.
    Sadly for you, consistency doesn't exclude bellendary.
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  3. #2223
    If calling a spade a spade is being a bellend then so be it.
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  4. #2224
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/2...n-lawsuit.html Fuzzy, is this enough constitutional scholars for you?
    For me the answer is a simple one: No.

    There will be a lawsuit before the Supreme Court according to your link. However many constitutional scholars line up is utterly irrelevant, the decision of the Supreme Court is what matters and that has not been given yet.

    I suspect they will find that there is no violation of the law. I agree with the logic of Andy Grewal, University of Iowa Law School Professor, in your link that the corporations are separate legal entities to the person who is the President and so no law is broken. I wonder why you ignore him and other scholars mentioned that refute the lawsuit?
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  5. #2225
    Well, apparently, calling racists racist, sexists sexist or simply protesting a possibly-foreign-backed-sexual-assault-bragging-racist-come-literal-piece-of-shit-and-contender-for-title-of-worst-living-human-being-who-lost-the-popular-vote-by-like-3-million being president is being a hypersensitive snowflake. So. Bellend it is, randyboy.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  6. #2226
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  7. #2227
    Wish you'd get me out of you sig.
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  8. #2228
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    I don't see why you're hung up on the term militia. Violence does not just come from militias in the 21st century.
    So far it's pretty much the work of lone crazies, much as it was for the second half of the last century.
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  9. #2229
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/2...n-lawsuit.html Fuzzy, is this enough constitutional scholars for you?
    Nope. You've advanced a claim stating a position for 50+% of the constitutional scholars, both inside and outside our country. You will NEVER be able to support your claim, no matter what you cite. Your attempts at conflating argumentum ad populum with fallacious appeals to authority will always remain fallacious in addition to being very obviously unprovable. You have a PH'd now IIRC Loki, you can do better than this crap.
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  10. #2230
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    I don't see why you're hung up on the term militia.
    Because I was responding to Fuzzy's post.
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  11. #2231
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    For me the answer is a simple one: No.

    There will be a lawsuit before the Supreme Court according to your link. However many constitutional scholars line up is utterly irrelevant, the decision of the Supreme Court is what matters and that has not been given yet.
    It's not going to be either. They don't have standing and it wouldn't be justiciable for other reasons even if they somehow did. This issue is not one for the courts, it falls to Congress.
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  12. #2232
    In which case the answer to Loki's question will be an even more categorical No.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
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  13. #2233
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    Nope. You've advanced a claim stating a position for 50+% of the constitutional scholars, both inside and outside our country. You will NEVER be able to support your claim, no matter what you cite. Your attempts at conflating argumentum ad populum with fallacious appeals to authority will always remain fallacious in addition to being very obviously unprovable. You have a PH'd now IIRC Loki, you can do better than this crap.
    You realize that by that standard you can't claim a consensus on any academic issue, as most people who study it don't publish on it...
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  14. #2234
    I certainly would never claim a concensus on an issue by use of an article reporting academics that completely disagree with your alleged consensus. I might claim consensus on an issue where there are many all agreeing on the consensus and none disagreeing with it but even then the consensus might still be wrong.

    Besides we are talking about a constitutional issue not a mere academic one.
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  15. #2235
    Trump has placed a hiring freeze on federal workers. Now we wait for Dread to come back and post about how he doesn't understand what a hiring freeze means, just like last time.


    Trump also froze federal pay raises, talk about not shitting where you eat.
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  16. #2236
    Second is a good move that should have been done 9 years ago. The US budget deficit is how big and it's still doling out pay rises.

    Pay for government employees has been frozen for years in the UK as part of austerity measures.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  17. #2237
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You realize that by that standard you can't claim a consensus on any academic issue, as most people who study it don't publish on it...
    Not necessarily the case but certainly wrt the way YOU try to use claims of consensus on this forum, it's basically always true and you are always wrong. I have never seen you advance "consensus" in a fashion which is not pure fallacy.
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  18. #2238
    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post

    Trump's inauguration (left) and Obama's in 2009, viewed from the Washington Monument
    While quite clearly Obama had more I wonder if that's a fair image (eg taken at peak crowds/same time for both). Interestingly CNN's interactive image looks a bit different if you look back to the Washington Monument.
    http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2...ion-gigapixel/
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    It's not going to be either. They don't have standing and it wouldn't be justiciable for other reasons even if they somehow did. This issue is not one for the courts, it falls to Congress.
    Do you have a specific reason to say that? The claim of standing in the complaint seems a bit flimsy, but you are rather absolute in your rejection. Which is kind of strange given that this kind of litigation hasn't been tried before and that the juridiction of Congress only seems to see to the part where Congress needs to permit reception of emoluments. TBH a complaint against Congress because of its inaction would make more sense as there is a situation where there are payments of which the nature is in question and thus to err on the safe side would have meant Congressional debate and or consent.

    It doesn't seem unreasonable to call paying for your hotel bill a fair value exchange. However, what if the choice to use the facilities offered by the Trump businesses is driven by a desire to please the President rather than a choice for those facilities on the basis of pure economics?
    Congratulations America

  20. #2240
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    While quite clearly Obama had more I wonder if that's a fair image (eg taken at peak crowds/same time for both). Interestingly CNN's interactive image looks a bit different if you look back to the Washington Monument.
    http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2...ion-gigapixel/
    Both pictures were taken between 11 and 11:30am.

    The Gigapixel image shows about the same crowd, but from a lower perspective, so you can't easily see the empty space. But if you zoom in, especially towards the monstrous tent in the back you can line up the same empty spaces from both pictures. Use the green fences as markers. To drive the point home even more, about a quarter of the crowd in Obama's picture is taken up by Trump's tent and the completely unused space behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    While quite clearly Obama had more I wonder if that's a fair image (eg taken at peak crowds/same time for both). Interestingly CNN's interactive image looks a bit different if you look back to the Washington Monument.
    http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2...ion-gigapixel/
    Rubbish, the CNN picture doesn't even give you the possibility to see the empty sections of the Mall. Also look at those bloody big tents in front of the monument. They make it impossible to even see Congress from the area between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial. And then of course the tents themselves make it physically impossible for even the same number of people being on the Mall during the moment of the Oath.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Both pictures were taken between 11 and 11:30am.

    The Gigapixel image shows about the same crowd, but from a lower perspective, so you can't easily see the empty space. But if you zoom in, especially towards the monstrous tent in the back you can line up the same empty spaces from both pictures. Use the green fences as markers. To drive the point home even more, about a quarter of the crowd in Obama's picture is taken up by Trump's tent and the completely unused space behind it.
    Congratulations America

  23. #2243
    Heh if it was me I would have said, "Of course my inauguration was smaller, the people who vote for me work."

  24. #2244
    Of course you'd say that, you've basically become a parody of a reddit clown. However, the claim would be extremely dubious as all jobs have been taken by China and by illegal immigrants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Heh if it was me I would have said, "Of course my inauguration was smaller, the people who vote for me work."
    It would have been even smarter to attribute it to the 'carnage' he spoke about in his speech. It s so easy to be a winner if you set your targets low enough.
    Congratulations America

  26. #2246
    Without evidence, Trump tells lawmakers 3 million to 5 million illegal ballots cost him the popular vote

    Someone should make a website that tracks the number of days since Trump's Team last lied. A static zero should suffice.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  27. #2247
    Trumps war on the EPA has officially begun

    http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...-media-updates
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  28. #2248
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Trumps war on the EPA has officially begun

    http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...-media-updates
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  29. #2249
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15820N

    Bringing back the pipeline fight. Wonder how long it will take him to go from twitter meltdown to sending in stormtroopers.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    There is only one social media account for the US government and that's the RealDonald.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/badlands...e-environment/

    We need more rogue twitter accounts.
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  30. #2250
    surprising absolutely no one, Trump is already threatening to decide which press gets access, instead of leaving it up to the White House Correspondents' Association.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/national-...ck-who-gets-in
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