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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    I like this part:

    Having boasted that the virtue of the special relationship is that friends can be candid with each other, Theresa May's silence on President Trump's executive order will raise suspicion that in fact, as the junior partner, she is unwilling to speak her mind.
    There are various interpretations of the the word "special". I think currently it's more "back of the bus kind of special".
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  2. #2282
    Alternatively she thinks special as in bring frank behind closed doors and respectfully silent in public.

    This is a disgraceful action. However it's not an action of our government. Our ministers including Johnson were vocal when it was first suggested. But this not just in: The American voters chose this. The American voters made this happen. This is not a fucking shock it is a newly elected President implementing his manifesto that the American voters decided in their infinite wisdom to choose. The bastards.
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    For an illustration of how much of a damn the US gives about the opinions of its "special friend" see the Iraq War.
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  4. #2284
    She could at least have got in a mealy mouthed 'should be mindful of of the impact on those already living in the U.S.' but she couldn't even manage that. Probably just jealous she can't get away with something like that here.
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    I doubt the American voters intended any ban to hit people who have lived and worked in the US for years and who happened to be on a business trip of vacation. Being shut out of the country for 3 months probably will be enough to destroy lives. Missing 3 pay checks can mean you lose your home too.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    She could at least have got in a mealy mouthed 'should be mindful of of the impact on those already living in the U.S.' but she couldn't even manage that. Probably just jealous she can't get away with something like that here.
    If she wanted to she might be able to. According to YouGov voters in the UK are split on a similar ban being introduced here. 33% in favour, 36% opposed the rest don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    I doubt the American voters intended any ban to hit people who have lived and worked in the US for years and who happened to be on a business trip of vacation. Being shut out of the country for 3 months probably will be enough to destroy lives. Missing 3 pay checks can mean you lose your home too.
    It will be interesting to see how Trump's supporters respond when faced with those facts. Esp. given the prevalence of broad anti-Muslim sentiment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    She could at least have got in a mealy mouthed 'should be mindful of of the impact on those already living in the U.S.' but she couldn't even manage that. Probably just jealous she can't get away with something like that here.
    Yet. I'm not sure how much opposition she'd get from principled Tories. Public opinion, I think, would not be the greatest obstacle, given the present British antipathy towards accepting even a small fraction of Muslim refugees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    It will be interesting to see how Trump's supporters respond when faced with those facts. Esp. given the prevalence of broad anti-Muslim sentiment.
    Mosques are already being burned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Mosques are already being burned.
    False flag or just the natural life cycle of mosques?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=mosque+burned
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    Seems like the special relationship isn't helping Brits with dual citizenship of the countries that so far are on the travel ban list.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Yet. I'm not sure how much opposition she'd get from principled Tories. Public opinion, I think, would not be the greatest obstacle, given the present British antipathy towards accepting even a small fraction of Muslim refugees.
    Her majority's only 14, it wouldn't take many Tories with principles to stop her. A Trump style ban is such a bunt instrument I can't imagine even fairly islamophobic sections of the population being behind it.
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    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
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    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
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  14. #2294
    Jesus Christ turned back at LaGuardia Airport for refusing to state his religion. Second coming Trumped.
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  15. #2295
    https://twitter.com/JackieVimo

    Start with the tweet from 40 minutes ago (Judge asked status of petitioners) and go up. That judge is my hero.
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  16. #2296
    Yeah but she's gonna get so much grief from the racist meninist MRA trolls on the alt right.
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  17. #2297
    Given where she lives, I think she has numbers on her side.
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  18. #2298
    While everyone's busy making a fuss over the Muslim ban Trump dropped the joint chiefs of staff from the National Security Council, and gave the seat to Steve Bannon, who is a neo-nazi.

    So that's awesome.

    In other news, May did manage some lukewarm criticism for Trump's muslim ban. Hopefully, she also has a the common decency and even common sense to cancel this proposed state visit. It would shame this country greatly if Trump were allowed to use the UK's reputation, or what's left of it, to legitimize and normalize his regime.

    Apparently, one obstacle to the visit is Trump being reluctant to meet Prince Charles, who would likely call him out for being a piece of shit. Along with Shia LaBeouf's nazi punching* antics, this crisis is producing some unlikely heroes.

    * mild shoving
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    His regime?

    Winner of US presidential election implements his manifesto.

    The World recoils in horror.

    Discuss.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
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    Let's get some perspective and not pretend we only offer state visits to nice people. It's not that long ago we had a state visit from China - a one party state that imprisons it's political opponents and bans free speech. The American electorate have gone for an arsehole but he's still nowhere near that bad.

    We will work with America like China because of realpolitik. We face the world how it is not how we wish it to be.
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    While nasty characters are given state visits, the same is rarely true for leaders in the middle of making the situation worse. It sends a bad signal about the current policies.
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    Aaaaand Trump gutted the Foreign Ministry.

    It only shows this government's absolute idiocy when they fire people wholesale without any notification beforehand AND do not have their successors already setup. Not to mention that passing on knowledge seems to be something that's not important.

    Also, the manner in which they were let go is despicable: Those were people who worked several decades for the ministry. And all they get is an unceremonial memo to get out.
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  23. #2303
    This makes for entertaining reading:

    https://twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/with_replies

    No idea how legit this account is, but if it's true then I give Trump months at best before he's impeached, or resigns or simply explodes
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  24. #2304
    It may seem a little early but I believe it may already be time to revisit Lewk's recent question:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    I'm curious how folks would define a successful Trump presidency? What kind of criteria would you use?

    Unemployment Rate (specify which type)
    Stock Market at certain level (S&P 500?)
    Number of terrorists killed?
    Crime Rates?
    GDP growth?
    Passage of campaign promises (the wall, repealing Obamacare etc)
    How would Lewk define a successful Trump presidency, in light of this weekend's events, most notably the travel ban and the sidelining of important members of the NSC in favour of inserting Bannon?

    The mind-numbingly--at times horrifyingly--stupid social media commentary from the right seems to be the culmination of the well-established Lewkowskian approach to informed democracy. If you guys haven't seen it yet I strongly urge you to do so because that's where this shit's playing out.

    I'm a little surprised to see Lewk so quiet this weekend. Also interested to hear the thoughts of others who, during the campaign, downplayed the concerns about the Trump-administration's anti-democratic policies.
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  25. #2305
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
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    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  26. #2306
    Does this have any precedence? Acting Attorney General orders DOJ lawyers not to defend the Executive Order in court: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/30/po...sr0130dojtrump
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  27. #2307
    The decision by the acting attorney general is a remarkable rebuke by a government official to a sitting president that recalls the dramatic “Saturday Night Massacre” in 1973, when President Richard M. Nixon fired his attorney general and deputy attorney general for refusing to dismiss the special prosecutor in the Watergate case.

    That case prompted a constitutional crisis that ended when Robert Bork, the solicitor general, acceded to Mr. Nixon’s order and fired Archibald Cox, the special prosecutor.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/u...s-refugee.html
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  28. #2308
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/sean...pose-a-threat/

    “When you look at the 329,000 people [who traveled to the U.S. over the weekend], 109 were inconvenienced for the safety and security of us all,” the Trump spokesman said. “And to make sure that, if they are a 5 year old, that maybe they’re with their parents and they don’t pose a threat.”
    Yeah! They might stay up past bedtime and leave lego everywhere for people to tread on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/sean...pose-a-threat/



    Yeah! They might stay up past bedtime and leave lego everywhere for people to tread on.
    Hey, those fuckers HURT!
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