Ban the Church! (Question for Lewkoski)

[Ziggy Stardust]

You have this passion when it comes to child rapists and the desire to kill them. Do you feel as strongly towards organisations who cover up child rape? Who facilitate these rapists and make it possible to continue their crimes.

I am kind of surprised, knowing how vigilant you are thinking of the children, that I haven't heard a peep from you with regard to the Paedophile Bastards protected by the Church scandals. Where is your superior sense of morality? You cry foul whenever a child rapist has served his time and gets out and commits another crime, but not a single itty bit of criticism when a child rapist does not serve time and is protected from serving that time by an organisation you happen to be part of. And not only some low end blue collar priests, but the very leader of this organisation who is supposed to be the shining beacon of morality.

I am sure that with your usual blunt axe reasoning, you arive at the same conclusion as I did, and we need to make sure this kind of authority structure with religious foundation is no longer used to abuse children and should be abolished as soon as possible.

Amiright?

After all, how many sexually abused, scarred for life, prone to suicide children does it take to say, enough is enough. 100? 1.000? 10.000? Tell me Lewk, how many children are you willing to sacrifice to preserve your cozy little environment? What ratio do you feel has to be crossed to make you join my cause? 1 in 1000 communities where this sort of abuse happens? 1 in 100? 1 in 10? How many kids Lewk? Answer me this.

[Hazir]

Somehow I doubt Lewk is a catholic and would protect the Catholic Church. Ýou're not going to get out of this what you think/like Ziggy.

[GGT]

Ziggy, what Hazir said. Protestants don't generally care what happens within the Roman Catholic Church. That's a pretty big divide, since the Pope is NOT infallible or the direct word from God, not to Protestants.

I'm guessing Lewk would say fry them all.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Well, first of all, I don't expect anything out of it. I expect a "can't compare, completely different" sort of reaction. Lewk is also not part of the communities where the instances of child-rapist recidivism is involved to blow his morality horn.

Or he'll join my cause to get rid of the Church once and for all and let spirituality become personal again.

I do however feel this should not have been in D&D, but rather GC. Move at will Mr. Mods.

[GGT]

Not so fast. It might be a debate for people of faith. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist. Maybe faith has nothing to do with it.

What do we do with people who sexually abuse minor children? Turn the other cheek, forgive, punish? What's the proper punishment.....life in prison? So many years in prison but then trying to find a place to live outside the predator parameters, what's that besides freedom without freedom? Just an extended cage.

Can all sexual predators be placed in one group---is the 18 yr old who screws around with their 15 yr old partner really a sexual predator?

[Hazir]

Ziggy, your assumption is ridiculous. The very existence of his Church is an attack on the Roman Catholic Church.

[GGT]

Ziggy you changed the title? Hazir made a historical point of fact....all Protestants come from the Reformation, which means a rejection of the Roman Catholic Church, the Pope, the Papacy, the Vatican, their doctrine.

[Ziggy Stardust]

So ... ban 'em ... right?

Ziggy, your assumption is ridiculous. The very existence of his Church is an attack on the Roman Catholic Church.

Good. That's a powerful ally to have in my quest.

[Lewkowski]

I am kind of surprised, knowing how vigilant you are thinking of the children, that I haven't heard a peep from you with regard to the Paedophile Bastards protected by the Church scandals. Where is your superior sense of morality? You cry foul whenever a child rapist has served his time and gets out and commits another crime, but not a single itty bit of criticism when a child rapist does not serve time and is protected from serving that time by an organisation you happen to be part of. And not only some low end blue collar priests, but the very leader of this organisation who is supposed to be the shining beacon of morality.

I have talked about the Catholic church before and how shitty they are for protecting the priests. They should be brought to justice both the enablers and the actual child rapists themselves.

Keep in mind however my passion is the punishment phase of our criminal justice system. So you will see far more posts on stories where some child rapist got out of jail and then took an innocent life. The idea of a child molester freed from prison and then raping or killing again is sickening. We had the bastards where they belong (prison) and then let them out. Its hard enough to catch them the first time so be damn sure we don't ever let the scum out.

[ar81]

Not so fast. It might be a debate for people of faith. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist. Maybe faith has nothing to do with it.

What do we do with people who sexually abuse minor children? Turn the other cheek, forgive, punish? What's the proper punishment.....life in prison? So many years in prison but then trying to find a place to live outside the predator parameters, what's that besides freedom without freedom? Just an extended cage.

Can all sexual predators be placed in one group---is the 18 yr old who screws around with their 15 yr old partner really a sexual predator?

If an institution becomes an obstacle before justice, and if the institution does not lead by example, but by exactly the opposite, its door should be shut down.

* Jews outraged at Vatican scandal comparison
* Vatican attacks media on 'Pope role' in sex abuse cases

[CitizenCain]

Banning the [Catholic] church is a stupid idea.

It should be treated as what it is, using the law specifically passed for this purpose.