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  1. #3391
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    https://youtu.be/CF-Qqa_e7WM

    Seems CNN does not like being made fun of...and will dox you, or threaten to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veldan Rath View Post
    https://youtu.be/CF-Qqa_e7WM

    Seems CNN does not like being made fun of...and will dox you, or threaten to.
    LOL they keep that up it will only backfire.

  3. #3393
    They're getting attacked from all angles for that one (deservedly so).
    Hope is the denial of reality

  4. #3394
    Betcha anything it was a kid and this author is a childless guy who tried to take parenting tone, and failed horribly.

    One would hope that the shoe being on the other foot will finally help the message get through to the alt-right/nazis that currently control the_donald. The site admins had to crack down on them a while back because they were doxxing berkeley protestors. The Sandy Hook parents still get harassed to this day. And how many people has the conservative talk show circuit doxxed between people like gleen beck, alex jones and oreilly?

    Yeah, one would hope, but one should also know better.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    But suggesting that the party of racism, wealth redistribution, crippling over-taxation and big government is superior to conservatives simply because Trump is an egomaniac? Nope. I support the GOP because of their positions not their personalities.
    If the world has learned anything from Trump, GOP, and their supporters these past couple of years its that they are nonstop projectionists, and you are a bonified example of that. No matter how many times your stupidity gets pointed out.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    They're getting attacked from all angles for that one (deservedly so).
    Think CCN will double down?
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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  7. #3397
    Quote Originally Posted by Veldan Rath View Post
    Think CCN will double down?
    Depends how much heat they get. I.e. they're praying for some juicy Trump tweets about now.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  8. #3398
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Yikes. That's honestly sad.

  9. #3399
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post

    If the world has learned anything from Trump, GOP, and their supporters these past couple of years its that they are nonstop projectionists, and you are a bonified example of that. No matter how many times your stupidity gets pointed out.
    Racism: One party is for race based discrimination (affirmative action). There are plenty of other cases (such as the unbridled hate attacks on black conservatives - pretty sure every single national black republican has been called an uncle tom at one point or another).

    Wealth Redistribution: What do you think higher taxes for the rich and more social services and benefits for the poor are? Hell you probably are in support of it.

    Over taxation: Dems love higher taxes - be it on businesses, rich people, death taxes etc.

    Big Government: While some conservatives (Trump included) are certainly guilty of this as well, it is clear that it is the Democrats who are in favor of a whole host of things that are big government. Stricter environmentalist laws, more government regulation, more taxes, more impactful minimum wage, more money for education etc. How can anyone actually dispute that Dems are the party of big government?

    So tell me, what among these do you find me projecting? These are all issues that are important to me that I feel the Democratic party will do worse on.

  10. #3400
    Shame they didn't just go to his house and interview him and air it live. It would have helped them connect on a deeper level through the shared appreciation of doxing and harassing people.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  11. #3401
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Racism: One party is for race based discrimination (affirmative action). There are plenty of other cases (such as the unbridled hate attacks on black conservatives - pretty sure every single national black republican has been called an uncle tom at one point or another).

    Wealth Redistribution: What do you think higher taxes for the rich and more social services and benefits for the poor are? Hell you probably are in support of it.

    Over taxation: Dems love higher taxes - be it on businesses, rich people, death taxes etc.

    Big Government: While some conservatives (Trump included) are certainly guilty of this as well, it is clear that it is the Democrats who are in favor of a whole host of things that are big government. Stricter environmentalist laws, more government regulation, more taxes, more impactful minimum wage, more money for education etc. How can anyone actually dispute that Dems are the party of big government?

    So tell me, what among these do you find me projecting? These are all issues that are important to me that I feel the Democratic party will do worse on.
    Are we still pretending that Trump - and by extension those who voted for him - actually care about any of those issues (other than racism, and for all the wrong reasons)?
    Hope is the denial of reality

  12. #3402
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Are we still pretending that Trump - and by extension those who voted for him - actually care about any of those issues (other than racism, and for all the wrong reasons)?
    At the very least we get grid lock as opposed to the Democrats pushing through their agenda - which would be easily done if the GOP fractured into two parties. And there is still potential upside. While it sucks right now I've got some hope we can get some tax reform in and the teeth pulled from the CFPB. And since I'm a fan of cracking down illegal immigration and *that* at least is going to get some work for sure I've got some good silver linings.

  13. #3403
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/w...0-hamburg.html
    Trump continues to deny Russia's election meddling. Almost like this little orange lives in his own little world.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    At the very least we get grid lock as opposed to the Democrats pushing through their agenda - which would be easily done if the GOP fractured into two parties. And there is still potential upside. While it sucks right now I've got some hope we can get some tax reform in and the teeth pulled from the CFPB. And since I'm a fan of cracking down illegal immigration and *that* at least is going to get some work for sure I've got some good silver linings.
    The Dems would pass their agenda with GOP control of the House and Senate?
    Hope is the denial of reality

  15. #3405
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The Dems would pass their agenda with GOP control of the House and Senate?
    It's actually quite likely that if Clinton had won, the overall electorate shift may have given the Dems the Senate as well. The House was almost certainly out of reach, though - ironically, the absolutely awful GOP polling (as part of the Trump halo) may give Dems the chance to make huge gains in the House at midterms. IIRC the Senate map is less promising though obviously the deficit is smaller.

    Not that Lewk's concerns are valid or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    It's actually quite likely that if Clinton had won, the overall electorate shift may have given the Dems the Senate as well. The House was almost certainly out of reach, though - ironically, the absolutely awful GOP polling (as part of the Trump halo) may give Dems the chance to make huge gains in the House at midterms. IIRC the Senate map is less promising though obviously the deficit is smaller.

    Not that Lewk's concerns are valid or anything.
    The House would be Republican and the Senate still has a filibuster.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  17. #3407
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-at-elementary

    Right up lewks alley, wonder what his excuse will be this time.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-at-elementary

    Right up lewks alley, wonder what his excuse will be this time.
    It's a false-false flag operation. The person is really anti-trump, posing as a trump support trying to do a false-flag. The epitome of fake news.
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  19. #3409
    But that's just the most obvious explanation, it can't be that simple.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  20. #3410
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The Dems would pass their agenda with GOP control of the House and Senate?
    This entire conversation back and forth started with your push for having the GOP part to fracture and split.

    "That's to say they don't actually represent more than a handful of Republican voters. Were I one of those Republicans, I'd seriously consider forming a third party. It will have no chance of winning in the near future, but who knows what will happen a decade or two down the line?"

  21. #3411
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-at-elementary

    Right up lewks alley, wonder what his excuse will be this time.
    Eh? Do you think every person in a political part or movement is ethical and rational? Here we have a scumbag who is also a giant moron. The left isn't the SOLE bastion of idiocy however compared to the number of fake hate crimes you could clearly see which side is more likely to pull this kind of crap.

  22. #3412
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    This entire conversation back and forth started with your push for having the GOP part to fracture and split.

    "That's to say they don't actually represent more than a handful of Republican voters. Were I one of those Republicans, I'd seriously consider forming a third party. It will have no chance of winning in the near future, but who knows what will happen a decade or two down the line?"
    I would think that a chance at a real conservative party and government would be better than the certainty of Trump. I guess not.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  23. #3413
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I would think that a chance at a real conservative party and government would be better than the certainty of Trump. I guess not.
    Snowballs chance in hell. The sad, sad reality is that libertarian thought is dead in the 21st century. Millennials are too dependent, they will always cry out for big brother. It is only by combining several disparate groups into one party that the juggernaut of massive government control over every segment of economic life can be delayed.

  24. #3414
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    This entire conversation back and forth started with your push for having the GOP part to fracture and split.

    "That's to say they don't actually represent more than a handful of Republican voters. Were I one of those Republicans, I'd seriously consider forming a third party. It will have no chance of winning in the near future, but who knows what will happen a decade or two down the line?"
    I would think that a chance at a real conservative party and government would be better than the certainty of Trump. I guess not.
    When was the twenty-second amendment to the US constitution repealed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  25. #3415
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Snowballs chance in hell. The sad, sad reality is that libertarian thought is dead in the 21st century. Millennials are too dependent, they will always cry out for big brother. It is only by combining several disparate groups into one party that the juggernaut of massive government control over every segment of economic life can be delayed.
    Too bad the main bloc of that grouping (Trumpists) is in favor of massive government control over your life.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  26. #3416
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Too bad the main bloc of that grouping (Trumpists) is in favor of massive government control over your life.
    Yeah but it doesn't get its way all the time. We saw the fallout from the Health Care bill that got sunk, the Freedom Caucus is still around.

  27. #3417
    And what's the Freedom Caucus? People that insist that every tax or any government regulation are assaults on our Freeeedoms?

  28. #3418
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    And what's the Freedom Caucus? People that insist that every tax or any government regulation are assaults on our Freeeedoms?
    For the most part, yes. If your position is that the government already taxes and regulates too much than any additional tax or regulation is suspect.

  29. #3419
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    For the most part, yes. If your position is that the government already taxes and regulates too much than any additional tax or regulation is suspect.
    Which parts of "government oversight" are you ready to do without? The water you drink, the foods you eat, the meds you take, the car you drive, the bank you use? It's one thing to say teh gummint is too big or intrusive, it's another to say it has no role.

  30. #3420
    The US is one of the least taxed countries in the Western world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_to_GDP_ratio
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