Justine Diamond

[Loki]

I can only imagine Rand as a prosecutor. Jews are statistically more likely to commit white color crimes; therefore, allocate more money to investigate Jews. Blacks are statistically more likely to commit violent crimes; therefore, apply a lower evidentiary standard for charging them with said crimes. Nothing like supporting explicitly racist actions by the state. You don't want to be discriminated against by the police? Stop being black!

[Aimless]

I can only imagine Rand as a prosecutor. Jews are statistically more likely to commit white color crimes; therefore, allocate more money to investigate Jews. Blacks are statistically more likely to commit violent crimes; therefore, apply a lower evidentiary standard for charging them with said crimes.

We should just strip-search all black people every day #evidencebasedpolicing

I am a little surprised by the bizarre logic RB's been using in this thread, and in the BLM thread, to both defend racial bias and to deny that it exists.

[Loki]

Ethically, I'm far more tolerant of private discrimination than of the governmental variety. It's easier to avoid dealing with assholes than to avoid the government.

Even for the weaker private discrimination, I'd use two tests. First, just how likely is a negative event to happen to you if you don't discriminate? If a third of group X were likely to jump you if you walked past them, it's reasonable to stay away from that group. If it's 0.1%, you're being an asshole.

More importantly, what is the effect of that discrimination? If you hurt someone's feelings because you cross the street to avoid them, it's not nice, but neither is it the end of the world. If you apply different hiring criteria to members of group X because you've been burned by them in the past, you're causing material harm, and are clearly an asshole.

Jumping back to governmental​ discrimination: if you support it, you're a horrible human being. You're using the state to harm members of a group for reasons unrelated to individual actions. You're both justifying and perpetuating a system of group Y supremacy. You're opposing the basic tenets of liberal democracy, which requires equal protection under the law. You're guaranteeing second class citizenship to people purely on the basis of their birth. And then you actually expect those people to respect the law and to respect you?