The Nunes Memo

[Steely Glint]

So I found the article Fox News is on about.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-intel...l?guccounter=1

Notice anything? Like, what it's actually reporting... it is reporting that US intelligence officials are investigating Carter Page.

Fox News reckons:

Instead, the FBI suggested to the court, the September 2016 article by Michael Isikoff was independent corroboration of the salacious, unverified allegations against Trump in the infamous Steele Dossier. Federal authorities used both the Steele Dossier and Yahoo News article to convince the FISA court to authorize a surveillance warrant for Page.

So according to Fox News, the FBI was using an article saying that they themselves were investigating Page was corroboration of the Steele dossier. That the investigation was kicked off by an article reporting on the existence of that investigation and they used the article reporting the fact they were investigating as evidence to get a warrant which can only be proof that FBI investigative procedure makes used of closed time-like curves and what the shitting hell is this Doctor Who level bollocks honest to christ

[Lewkowski]

So I found the article Fox News is on about.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-intel...l?guccounter=1

Notice anything? Like, what it's actually reporting... it is reporting that US intelligence officials are investigating Carter Page.

Fox News reckons:



So according to Fox News, the FBI was using an article saying that they themselves were investigating Page was corroboration of the Steele dossier. That the investigation was kicked off by an article reporting on the existence of that investigation and they used the article reporting the fact they were investigating as evidence to get a warrant which can only be proof that FBI investigative procedure makes used of closed time-like curves and what the shitting hell is this Doctor Who level bollocks honest to christ

What was used to justify the FISA warrant outside of the Steele Dossier?

[Aimless]

What was used to justify the FISA warrant outside of the Steele Dossier?

Most of this info remains redacted, with only the relevant statutes noted in the apps.

However, it begins like this:



(with the redacted content--likely providing increasingly detailed information about those contacts w/ Russian intelligence--growing in size for each app)

And continues like this:



Transcript of intercepted convos between two SVR officers talking about Page:





As for the Steele memos, the FBI was and remains satisfied that Steele is a reliable source, but of course they went to great lengths to provide independent corroboration. The Schiff memo points out that the FBI's counterintelligence investigation was initiated nearly two months before they received Steele's intel, based on other information that was available to them:

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000...1-edefe9d00001

• Christopher Steele's raw intelligence reporting did not inform the rave decision to initiate its counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016. In fact, the FBI's closely-held investigative team only received Steele's reopening in mid-September—more than seven weeks later. The FBI – and, subsequently, the Special Counsel's – investigation into links between the Russian government and Trump campaign associates has been based on troubling law enforcement and intelligence information unrelated to the "dossier."

• DOJ's October 21, 2016 FISA application and three subsequent renewals carefully outlined for the court a multi-pronged rationale for surveilling Page, who, at the time of the first application, was no longer with the Trump campaign. DOJ detailed Page's past relationships with Russian spies and interaction with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign, . DOJ cited multiple sources to support the case for surveilling Page—but made only narrow use or information from Steele's sources about Page's specific activities in 2016, chiefly his suspected July 2016 meetings in Moscow with Russian officials. . In fact, the FBI interviewed Page in March 2016 about his contact with Russian intelligence. the very month candidate Donald Trump named him a foreign policy adviser.

As DOJ informed the Court in subsequent renewals, Steele's reporting about Page's Moscow meetings . DOJ's applications did not otherwise rely on Steele's reporting, including any "salacious" allegations about Trump, and the FBI never paid Steele for this reporting. While explaining why the FBI viewed Steele's reporting and sources as reliable and credible, DOJ also disclosed:

• Steele's prior relationship with the FBI;
• the fact of and reason for his termination as a source; and
• the assessed political motivation of those who hired him.

The FISA applications contain redacted sections that describe this information.

Now you might chafe at the thought of having to take Schiff's word on anything, but let's be clear: we now know that Nunes lied about the contents of the FISA apps, and we have confirmed that some of Schiff's corrections were accurate.

In closing, I must confess that I find the striking differences between your views on govt. surveillance of brown Muslim Americans (who might hold extremist views) and a non-Muslim white American (who has had suspicious contacts with intelligence officers of a hostile foreign nation and is strongly suspected of having committed numerous criminal violations of US statutes)... to be pretty hilarious. You're turning into a parody of yourself, Lewk.

[Lewkowski]

Aimless - so all of that is... jack and shit without more parts being un-redacted. Let me ask you this - without the Steele Dossier would that FISA warrant been issued or was it the critical part of the justification for it? This is important because if it is the critical part and they did not disclose the details tot he FISA court about the obvious bias nature of it you have proof of some real shady shit in an election year.

Secondly lets talk about this:

"In closing, I must confess that I find the striking differences between your views on govt. surveillance of brown Muslim Americans (who might hold extremist views) and a non-Muslim white American (who has had suspicious contacts with intelligence officers of a hostile foreign nation and is strongly suspected of having committed numerous criminal violations of US statutes)... to be pretty hilarious. You're turning into a parody of yourself, Lewk."

Monitoring PUBLIC FACEBOOK PAGES DOESN'T REQUIRE A WARRANT. In addition if you did want to push the envelope, I'd rather have people looking into actual terrorist threats then random spy games.

[Enoch the Red]

Aimless - so all of that is... jack and shit without more parts being un-redacted. Let me ask you this - without the Steele Dossier would that FISA warrant been issued or was it the critical part of the justification for it? This is important because if it is the critical part and they did not disclose the details tot he FISA court about the obvious bias nature of it you have proof of some real shady shit in an election year.

Secondly lets talk about this:

"In closing, I must confess that I find the striking differences between your views on govt. surveillance of brown Muslim Americans (who might hold extremist views) and a non-Muslim white American (who has had suspicious contacts with intelligence officers of a hostile foreign nation and is strongly suspected of having committed numerous criminal violations of US statutes)... to be pretty hilarious. You're turning into a parody of yourself, Lewk."

Monitoring PUBLIC FACEBOOK PAGES DOESN'T REQUIRE A WARRANT. In addition if you did want to push the envelope, I'd rather have people looking into actual terrorist threats then random spy games.

Haven't you advocated for placing surveillance on mosques?

[Aimless]

Haven't you advocated for placing surveillance on mosques?

IE red flags appear when someone does the following:

Makes public pro jihad statements
Goes to a radical mosque for worship
Books a flight to the Middle East

These things don't trigger persecution and prosecution they trigger investigation.

[...]

Now let me ask you this Loki. Do you think people should be investigated prior to a crime being committed? IE do you believe in a fully passive homeland security process? IE someone can say Osama is great (not illegal) book a flight to the middle east (not illegal) buy a bunch of weapons (not illegal) link to videos of be-headings (not illegal) and the police/FBI/homeland/insert relevant agency know all this and they should do nothing? I can't fathom the though process that would support this and I don't want to accuse you of actually thinking that so please let me know if this is actually what you want to see happen.

Note: the above does not apply to white men who have become compromised by the intelligence apparatus of a hostile foreign country.

[Lewkowski]

Haven't you advocated for placing surveillance on mosques?

With appropriate red flags sure. Not every mosque that would be untenable from a manpower situation even if we wanted to.

[Ominous Gamer]

I'd rather have people looking into actual terrorist threats then random spy games.

Translation: I'm a fucking moron.

[Aimless]

So I found the article Fox News is on about.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-intel...l?guccounter=1

Notice anything? Like, what it's actually reporting... it is reporting that US intelligence officials are investigating Carter Page.

Fox News reckons:



So according to Fox News, the FBI was using an article saying that they themselves were investigating Page was corroboration of the Steele dossier. That the investigation was kicked off by an article reporting on the existence of that investigation and they used the article reporting the fact they were investigating as evidence to get a warrant which can only be proof that FBI investigative procedure makes used of closed time-like curves and what the shitting hell is this Doctor Who level bollocks honest to christ

A more important issue is that Nunes & co. lied about how the article was used. They claimed that the article was used to corroborate Steele's intel even though it was itself based on that same intel. The Schiff memo attempted to correct this lie:



We now know that Nunes & co. lied; the article was used to show that Page was lying about his Russian contacts:



This is important b/c Page was in effect working as a foreign agent while hiding that fact, by not registering as one and publicly denying that status.

Lewk is now defending the grotesque attempt to protect Trump by obstructing the FBI's work and calling the agency into disrepute through the use of outright lies. It is utterly disgraceful that he cannot acknowledge that Nunes lied about the contents of the FISA app & reauths even when presented with conclusive evidence that this was the case, just as it was when they claimed that the FBI did not disclose the ultimately political nature of Steele's funding & assignment and later when they claimed that the disclosure was too difficult to notice (it was a footnote that covered half a fucking page). These people are irredeemable. They're "owning the libs" by acting like delusional idiots.