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That's nice Steely. Does it make your complicity in Cain's behavior go down better, somehow?
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Steely Glint. Whatever he may do, he'll never take a stand, or at least not one that is discernible without carefully sifting and inferring from his posts. Bravery. Balls. Truth. That's Mr. Steely Glint.
Of which complicity do you speak?
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Figure it out yourself, bright boy.
Wow. I thought the religious right in *this* country was nutty. I should have known that they'd look sane compared to Germany.Originally Posted by Steely Glint
<shrug> Leave it to Europe to make liberalism look a lot like fascism.
Personal credo. Granted, it's not as clever as yours, but what is yours? "Serving the cause of liberals as a Contra since 1963?"
Well, in that case, it's possible to believe in individual liberty (politically) and still posses the ability to generalize and categorize.Actually, it's the other way around.And it's still baffling that you don't take that as a given.
Really. Why would anyone who hates or distrusts the government... let the government raise their children?
Letting your inner communist out to play, are ya? Sorry that you find the idea of voluntary commerce to be so distasteful.
No, my parents gave me everything. Government, society, self-righteous zealots like you haven't given me anything other than a cold rage for the rest of humanity. Fuck off and die. Seriously, what a fucking waste of a perfectly good donor kidney you are. Should have gone to someone more useful, like a crack whore.
What Hollywood life story? Lower-middle class kid grows into middle class adult? Yeah, shit man, the big studios are always beating down my door to put that one up on the big screen.
Whatever you say. The jungles of Central America are beautiful this time of year, aren't they?
I *am* curious about what your obsession with war stories is, though... you hoping to pick up a detail or two to make your lies about military service better? Is your secret shame that you're a liberal who gets off on war porn? Have a big boy crush on me?
Yeah, that was pretty funny. But only because he was a drama whore with no serious intention to suicide or even self-harm. I must have a gift for smelling out a phony... probably why you've always had such a problem with me.
Aww, come on... if you're gonna do this, you gotta at least bring up my solicitation of underage DBZ kiddie porn, and pretend like I was being serious too.
Holy shit! I actually hit a nerve, didn't I? Now I'm starting to think your kidney disease really is the result of an untreated STD. Damn, I wish I could show you just how big I'm smiling right now.
He may well know your identity, but he's hardly one of the only people who know who you really are. Pretty much everyone on here knows you're a pathological liar who makes himself feel big by pretending to be anyone else. "I'm a contra! I'm an ex-Republican! I'm a born-again Christian who saw the light! I'm a rich Ph.D. with a hot wife and a fabulous home who loves paying his taxes! I'm a poor kid from the street who made it big thanks to government help!"
Seriously... how pathetic are you that you have to pretend to be someone, anyone else just to post online?
Careful now... wasn't it that kind of talk that got you the STD which fried your kidneys?
You really don't get it, do you? I couldn't give a fuck if you're gay or not... and God knows you can't swing a dead towel-head in the Army without hitting a gay guy. I'm not the one who's got a homophobia problem - you are. That's why you get worked up into a frenzy anytime I suggest you may have had gay experiences, and I care so little about it that I make gay jokes about myself. A liberal closet-homophobe. God-damn, it's fun to have you around again!
Right. For that, you should probably go to the beginning of the thread, where at least three people provided a plethora of definitions of libertarianism. (Both serious, and humorous.)
"And blackjack, and hookers! In fact, forget the blackjack!"
Exactly. What retirement plan isn't largely based in fantasy? But, for the record, this would all be financed through savings, and acquired through voluntary trade. (Buying shit with my savings.) Once I've worked long enough to afford my lifestyle, why not sit around on a beach, relaxing, playing with my toys (guns and computers and the like) and ingesting happiness in its various chemical forms? I guess that males me a man of simple tastes, or something.
But just for the record, I *will* be naked. I hate pants. Once I no longer need them to be out "in public" without getting arrested, the pants come off. This will, perhaps, be the only non-libertarian law on my island. No pants. Ever. For anyone.
Not sure about that - the natural world is every bit your "master" (at least in the sense you're using it), whether there's a government and a society around you or not. Fat lotta good that civilization does you when the tsunami's bearing down on you, and like that there.
No thanks, man. I prefer chicks. *Without* STDs.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
Weren't you referring to felonies? Sounds like you prefer children. That's not a troll: you said it yourself.
It is rather curious to observe a psychopath in action. A pathologically lying psychopath. Why the need to mock my illness, Cain? Is it really different than the Westboro baptist church? Having fun with the suffering of others? What kind of person does that? What kind of sickness thrives on that? Do you kill people? Torture? Rape? What is the boundary of your enjoyment of others' suffering? Where do you draw the line, man? We know that you will try to taunt suicidal tweens into killing themswelves. I've witnessed more than once. Most of us here have. So how reprehensible are you, really?
Why would you assume that if I were to talk a stand, it would be siding with you against Cain?
I already figured it out: none whatsoever, otherwise you would have explained what it was instead of restoring to poorly disguised bluffing.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Oh, not necessarily. Really, taking any ethical stand against that kind of behavior. You see, you just want the show, so you can apply your cool, practiced cynicism.
Give it up tear, so far, i've seen you fighting with everyone on this forum. I'm not the problem. You are. you just started a fight with Steely.
Oh, you're a problem, too.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
Just out of interest, what 'ethical stand' would you like me to take? Maybe following him around to every thread he posts him telling him what a worthless fucking fuck he is?
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
I'm only actively arguing with Tear, I stopped fighting with the rest. :/Oh, you're a problem, too.
I wonder if you notice the irony of those two statements given your recent behavior. I'll guess no, but who knows.
Hope is the denial of reality
Yes, actually. Something like that. You see, when Silver attacked Lolli with all kinds of ugly stuff, I stepped up and took a side. When Cain tried to get the kiddies to commit suicide, I called him on it. When people have said homophobic, racist, sexist whatever, I always step up and say "you've gone too far." That's what decent people do in a community.
When Cain makes grotesque, cruel and homophobic comments about the illness that almost killed me? Nothing. Outrage when Silverlink says stuff less offensive stuff, but nothing against Cain because he is amusing where Silver was abrasive.
You see, Steely. It's not the offender, it's the offense. If you let an abomination pass without comment, you are complicit. If you here somebody drop the N-word at a party and just turn away in discomfort, you are complicit. You are, in fact, ethically compromised.
Oh, did I miss that he said he'd talk it over with them first? And that I described a pop in the nose?
Orders of magnitude, Loki. You're a flaming hypocrite. Lots of gnashing "woe is me," when somebody calls you on something. Nothing as long as your "position" here isn't threatened.
Right, and good luck to ya Cain, for building a retirement of "dollars" that doesn't involve other people, in any way. Let alone gummints.
Go on Mister Liberty, declare your independence NOW. No need to wait, or plan, or save. Just take your pants off and wander around until you find your "island". It could be a cardboard box in the Bronx, over a steam vapor in the sidewalk.
Oh wait, others made the box and the steam. Scratch that.
Find your way to a southern beach. There ya go. Before you know it, some babe will appear, and she'll also have her own boat, and will agree to ferry you to a deserted island! Before she services your sexual needs, she can drop you off and wave goodbye matey!
Make sure you've got plenty of gold coins, rum, guns, and bullets, just in case. To trade with those others whom you don't want to find you, or deal with. Pesky people, they always want something! Even being freeee of them means planning for them, as enemies or interlopers. Bummer.
Matches and a tarp might help, too. Forget the internet, or electricity, you won't need it where you're going. You want to be freeeeee of others, right? Right.
So you threatening violence: perfectly fine.
You using foul language: perfectly fine.
Anyone else doing the same: ban!
Hope is the denial of reality
So you expect people to stand up for you? You've gotta be living in some kind of Disney movie or some shit. Real life doesn't work this way. Just because you defend someone, it does not mean they in turn will defend you. you chose to be altruistic in an egoist world. I'm not going to bash you for saying that because I thought that if i did something, the other party had to reciprocate. I learned that the hard way and lost a very close friend. She doesn't even talk to me anymore.
What did I say, Loki? Really. Because your representation of it sounds suspiciously off.
And has somebody threatened your life?
I never complained swearing directed at me, did I? Care to make something else up?You using foul language: perfectly fine.
Anyone else doing the same: ban!
I think the real problem is that he expects people to jump to his defense after he provokes the attacks.
I'm also not entirely sure how he has turned Cain into a homophobe.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
And, possibly, because we don't give a rats ass about the feud you two have been running for what, six years now?
He sees Kane's open acceptance of homosexuality, and his use of it for "humorous" comments as cover for Kane's deep-seated homophobia. Which is more of Tear's own belligerence and demonization *speaking of old feuds, didn't you once take the "ban him" line against me, for my pointing out this behavior of yours Tear?*
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
The fact that you're continuing with this act despite everyone seeing straight through it speaks volumes about you. You really need to learn some self-control, especially considering that you're far more likely to be the aggressor than the victim here.
Hope is the denial of reality
Where is your boundary?
This?
"Oh, you weren't around for that? Apparently our dear ][ear was drafted to fight in Nicaragua. Well, so he claimed, anyway. I guess "believe what I say about the military because I was a Contra" was more convincing than "believe what I say about the military because I'm a cum-guzzling coward whose closest experience to combat was getting renal failure from an untreated STD I picked up being gay-for-pay near the local military base.""
Really? What horrific things have I said that are comparable, Loki? Seriously. Name them. Better, name what I said to you, since you seem to be conflating the two.
I'll tell you a little secret, and by secret, I mean something a two year old could figure out, about Cain: he likes it when you do stuff like that. He enjoys flame wars, and he likes trading insults in long line by line posts. What you are doing is indulging in behavior which is just going to cause even more of the same behavior you're allegedly trying to stop. Hence the little joke I posted: this is obviously not about bear hunting.
As did I, since that was an unprovoked and unjustified attack, rather than another pointless and irritating escalation in a pointless and irritating vendetta which is of interest to absolutely fucking no one other than the two fucking idiots involved with it. In short, no one is coming to your aid, because no one wants to take your side because of your own irritating ass behavior.You see, when Silver attacked Lolli with all kinds of ugly stuff, I stepped up and took a side. When Cain tried to get the kiddies to commit suicide, I called him on it. When people have said homophobic, racist, sexist whatever, I always step up and say "you've gone too far." That's what decent people do in a community.
I don't find Cain that amusing.but nothing against Cain because he is amusing where Silver was abrasive.
An "N-word" without provocation is different than an "N-word" in the middle of a screaming argument between retards.You see, Steely. It's not the offender, it's the offense. If you let an abomination pass without comment, you are complicit. If you here somebody drop the N-word at a party and just turn away in discomfort, you are complicit. You are, in fact, ethically compromised.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Tear, why did you come back?
I mean, if you came back to actually participate, that would be great. Unfortunately, it looks like you only came back to pick fights with everyone.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
I'll second that. Maybe just maybe no one would pick on Tear here if he didn't flame someone with every other post he makes. Even a dog would eventually learn to change its behavior after disliking the consequences of its old behavior.
Hope is the denial of reality
I didn't ask for this, actually.
"Oh, you weren't around for that? Apparently our dear ][ear was drafted to fight in Nicaragua. Well, so he claimed, anyway. I guess "believe what I say about the military because I was a Contra" was more convincing than "believe what I say about the military because I'm a cum-guzzling coward whose closest experience to combat was getting renal failure from an untreated STD I picked up being gay-for-pay near the local military base."
Although Cain would clearly say that I did. Nice.
You know, fuck you too, Lolli. You got all hurt when Silver was making his ugly comments about you, but you don't stand for anything either. Why the hell did I stick my neck out for you or some sort of principle? You're just another reveler in the CC game. Let's see who can score cool points. You don't make any freakin stands either, do you? Well done!
Really? Personal attacks?
Loki, go lie somewhere where they don't smell it for what it is.
For the behavior between the two of you? I don't have one. You long since earned "a plague on both your houses." I don't care what he says to you. If you two shot each other, I'd thank God for the blessing of silence.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
I don't exactly see what I did to warrant that comment (and a couple of others) that were way beyond the pale of what has gone before.
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